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Shocker: Some People in Baseball Don’t Like Dom Brown’s ‘Weak Act’ Bat Flip and Choreographed High Five

Jun 6, 2013, 9:30 AM EDT

source:  Here’s a pop quiz for you. One of these four people is NOT OKAY with Dom Brown’s celebration after he hits home runs.

See if you can guess which one it is:

  • Ryan Howard
  • A Baseball Scout
  • Charlie Manuel
  • Gary “Sarge” Matthews

What’s your answer? Ding, ding, ding! You guessed it. A baseball scout is not okay with Dom Brown’s celebration. Your prize is a highly choreographed high five next time we see you.

So what did this scout have to say exactly. The Inquirer’s Bob Brookover did some investigating.

“Brown better watch it with that weak act he’s pulling after his home runs,” one scout said. “He’s going to tick off the wrong pitcher and wind up wearing it. There are a lot of people watching who hope it changes soon. It’s very unprofessional.”

So that’s what some anonymous baseball scout who may have never had the opportunity in his life to flip a bat and strut to first base after hitting a home run in a Major League Baseball game had to say.

It’s not like he’s totally off base though. Heck, even we called his bat flip the other night “incredibly ridiculous.”

The other three guys mentioned above are mostly okay with it. Mostly.

What about someone who knows a thing or two about bat flipping? How about Sarge Matthews? Again, the Inquirer’s Bob Brookover has the quotes:

“It might have been a little bit over the top,” Phillies broadcaster Gary Matthews said. “However, in saying that, I would much rather see him do that than to walk back and put the bat in the rack after a strikeout. For me, to show enthusiasm, that’s what it is all about, and it’s about time to see some of that.”


Fans cheer as left fielder Domonic Brown (9) rounds the bases after hitting a home run Credit: Howard Smith-USA TODAY Sports

It might be a little over the top, yes. HOWEVER, it’s also badass and fun as hell to watch if you’re a Phillies fan.

Ryan Howard and Charlie Manuel are also quoted on the subject. Howard himself is involved in the elaborate high-five-bow-thinger at home plate. The Big Piece cites Boston Red Sox slugger David Ortiz admiring one of his homers at CBP just a couple of weeks ago, noting that he enjoys a little flair in the game as long as it’s within the bounds of tasteful sportsmanship.

Manuel seems to think it’s the kind of thing that will police itself, but if it doesn’t, Chuck isn’t afraid to step in and say something. He hasn’t needed to yet.

Moral of the story? It’s okay to swag out a little bit. But DON’T go overboard, or else! (you could get plunked)

Like all things in life, moderation is key.

Your thoughts on the all-important Dom Brown bow or no-bow debate?

[Previous Bat Flip Gate Coverage: Dom Brown bat flip 1, Dom Brown bat flip 2, Dom Brown-Ryan Howard bow, Dom Brown may be a marked man]


  1. FP3 - Jun 6, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Slow News Day

  2. phillyupperdecker - Jun 6, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    I for one l love the bat flip and seeing Brown having fun. However, if it were Bryce Harper doing these antics all Philly fans would be in an uproar.

    • hatter12 - Jun 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM

      very true. Either way, if you don’t like the bat flip then strike him out.

  3. epr602 - Jun 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    BIG Phils fan, but I hate all that “look at me” crap – just play the game. Biggest turn off in sports today is the notion that any of these players are bigger than the game – I blame it on over saturation of the media coverage, but what are you gonna do

    • KD - Jun 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM

      His bat twirled in the air… oh no! That’s terrible!

    • Jason - Jun 6, 2013 at 11:33 AM

      It get’s into the pitcher’s head… I’d do anything to get a W, that includes a little showboating. If you don’t like it, stop watching, because the game’s changing. I bet your the guy who wants to see the Umps make all the calls, and no replays. GO BACK TO 1950 ya loon!?

    • youtastelikeaburger - Jun 6, 2013 at 11:54 AM

      I don’t really get why this argument is always brought up. Sports= entertainment, as a society we try to make sports into this sacred thing when in reality it isn’t at all. Are you not entertained?!!

      • willh888 - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:40 PM

        If you want entertainment, hit up an IMAX.

        These guys aren’t street acts performing for your amusement, they’re ball players.

      • Aspohr89 - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:00 PM

        willh…. sports are clearly entertainment. if they aren’t then the serve no purpose.

  4. Stacy - Jun 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    This kid went from being shuffled between AAA and the majors to leading the NL in home runs – its exciting and a little bat flip is in order. He’ll calm down but right now he is igniting my team so I’ll give him some leeway here.

  5. Nick - Jun 6, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Baseball and the media need to grow up and face reality. In every other sport it is acceptable to celebrate after “scoring”. In football you can celebrate when you score a Touchdown (in football, you are allowed to even celebrate mini accomplishments like first downs (Brent Celek) sacks (Trent Cole), big hits (Brian Dawkins), and even pass break ups (Asante Samuel)). In the NHL, the players go nuts when they score a goal. However, in MLB, it is a no-no to show any emotion when hitting a HR. Hit the ball and run the bases. Any emotion is showing up the pitcher. Blah, blah, blah. Grow up baseball and enter the 21st century. If the pitchers don’t want to be “shown up”, try not throwing a fastball out over the plate.

    • epr602 - Jun 6, 2013 at 10:38 AM

      Nothing funnier than seeing a “showboater” carried off the field

      • Nick - Jun 6, 2013 at 10:54 AM

        Yes, it is always funny seeing someone severely injured getting carried off the field.

        Again, its acceptable in every other sport except baseball. No one cares when Trent Cole does his sack dance, or Celek does his first down dance, Dawkins did his “big hit” dance, or Briere when he does his fist pump celebration. But god forbid Dom Brown flips a bat when he hits a HR. No, that is unacceptable. He should be plunked and injured like you suggested.

        You’re a tool.

      • Jon - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:24 PM

        If u think brown is a show boater then u grew up in a cave. Open ur eyes mc fly.

    • tommyhawk20 - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:21 PM

      It’s supposed to be about “Team”-not ” Me”. Don’t like the ego stroking in any team sport. If I’m the pitcher ‘he’ll be wearing on in his ribs his next AB.

  6. Pete D - Jun 6, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Texted a buddy the other day that it was a little much so yeah I guess it’s a little much. More than anything because I dont want to see him get hurt by an intentional plunking, you know a little ‘welcome to the big leagues’ type purpose pitch.

    That said, he’s more demonstrative with the bat flip than he is in his interviews so glad to see the dude expressing himself.

    • Dudes - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:53 PM

      Cole Hamels is on our team. The only guy who had ever intentionally plunked a guy (and owned up to it.) so Dom is safe

  7. Things My Parents Never Threw Away - Jun 6, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    Man, middle aged, jean short, high white socks w/white sneakers wearing fans of the northeast must hate this stuff, but at least it gives them some good conversation fodder when in line to buy cigarettes at WaWa.

    Who cares if Dom’s celebration is over the top? If a pitcher doesn’t like, he can hit him. If the fans don’t like it, they can get in their time machine and go back to the ’50s.

  8. galasso2586 - Jun 6, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Haters gonna hate

    • Luis - Jun 6, 2013 at 3:15 PM

      Agreed, who even cares really. I see players all the time flip their bat. Way to overreact. And then bringing up the little hand shake, really?? And the pirates did that all last year and no one cared since they are not a big market team?

  9. Jason S - Jun 6, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    All you people saying that this is “showboating” or “over the top” are idiots. Celebrate, get the pitcher mad, it’s part of the game. If there’s anything you can do to get into the pitcher’s head, DO IT. I’d do anything for a W if I was on their team. YOUTUBE Dom Brown Bat Flip and check out his Ironpig batflip against the Braves AAA team. This is in response to Frandsen getting drilled, then right after Dom homer’s and flips his bat, Kratz gets hit. Then the pitcher gets tossed and the bases clear. THAT’S GETTING IN THE PITCHER’S HEAD. IMO that wins games. I guess no one remembers Babe Ruth pointing his bat to the bleachers everytime he came up to bat.

    • BenE. - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      I said last year after that brawl against Gwinnett that the Phillies were missing that swagger and could use those three guys on this team. Anyone who agrees we’d all be pissed if it was Bryce Harper flipping his bat is absolutely right. But, oh well, it’s our turn to have some fun and get that swagger back.

      Anyone notice how you sometimes end up disliking the team that wins the World Series, and you can’t figure out why? It’s because winning teams have a swagger about them that grates on some people. I have read a lot of SF Giants hate on this site the past few years. The theme seems to be the Giants have characters and show offs on their team. Their bullpen has beards, Brian Wilson is a rodeo clown, Pablo Sandoval is cocky and Kung Fu Panda is a dumb nickname. Yet, you can’t argue with 2 WS in 3 years.

      So I say bring back the swagger in Philly. Sure we were winning for a while, but the team became too robotic and business-like. Flip the bat, do obnoxious high fives, argue with umpires, and throw beanballs when OTHER teams do all that stuff.

  10. Colin - Jun 6, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    He just smashed his 18th home run and his May was better then justin uptons entire season thus far. Let the man do as he pleases, he’s on fire. You’re all dumb.

  11. Atomic Fury - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    This is just what’s wrong with a lot of today’s athletes, they’ve got no class.

    • Jon - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:18 PM

      The guy is doing his job, maybe u sit on ur ass at ur job, im sure u do and do nothing at times.

  12. 2sense - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Until he cools off, nobody should care what the hell he does. We haven’t seen a guy this hot in several years, so lets just enjoy it.

    When Dom comes up my kids stop doing whatever and watch him. The flippy-showy crap is hopefully just a youngster phase that he’ll pass through, many good players go thru that. If five years from now he’s still showboating after every good play a-la Deon Sanders, then I’ll lose a lot of respect for him….like Deon Sanders.

  13. Dudes - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    He has earned his right to a bat flip when he is leading the NL in Home runs. And it also depends on who is pitching.

  14. Jay D - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Jose Reyes

  15. Simmonds17 - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Me, I suspect the problem other teams have with Brown’s home run celebration is that they’re seeing it too often.

    • Jon - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM

      The way baseball is now; brown would have to do roids to get people to like him, all the big name guys do roids, what else can be said?

  16. dpaque - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    The isssue is that it’s not a genuine celebration anymore – these guys all choregraph their celebrations and candidly nobody cares to watch him cross the plate, then bow his head and double slap/hihg five whoever is in front of him. I don’t mind someone getting excited about smashing the ball out of the park they all just want to one up each each other as muich as the next guy…we will see if anyone cares if he goes into a 2 for 30 slump.

  17. Bwah? - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Yes, damn this modern showboating game. What’s next, pointing to center field before the pitch is even thrown?!?

    • Jon - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:58 PM

      Well, babe ruth did that. He isnt a modern show boater. Lol.

  18. willh888 - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    we went through this before with Reyes and I guarantee (myself included) most of you were wah-wahing all over the internet when that dude jumped around and did his little handy-slap-dances with his bros. The bat flip is a little different but it screams “ive never been here before.” You don’t have to sprint around the bases like Eckstein either. It’s ok to have fun playing a kids game and get paid entirely too much to do so.. but maybe a touch of common courtesy goes a long way if you want to be taken seriously.

    I don’t care if dudes jump around like idiots in the NFL after scoring a touchdown. Really, who likes seeing flippy flappy dances after a tackle in the backfield. That’s the style that takes it too far and rubs fans the wrong way. How about you celebrate when you win, not circle the bases in the 6th inning holding the #1 in the air like a clown boy (Reyes 2008). If you don’t want the guy hitting behind you to get one in his ear, maybe tone down your in-game celebrations and put that stuff on the shelf until you win the game. Shaving cream, water cooler, post game hand shakes with teammates on the field.. all acceptable in my book.

    • timmmmmah - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:18 PM

      Bat flip = “never been here before” please tell that to Ortiz who did the other night when playing the Yanks. His practically made it into the dugout.

      • willh888 - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:51 PM

        Im arguing it just makes you look like that. Some guys just feel like they need more attention post-HR. Let your game speak for itself in that case. I’m not blasting the guy.. i just drew a parallel to a guy we wanted to punt into outer space for his antics. Now we call it ‘swag’

  19. Jon - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Domonic brown is very passive person, us fans would joke and dosnt look like he even tries to play hard, he looked like bla bla and not producing. Now he is this freak of being a real baseball player. How can u criticize a guy for doing his job? There has been bat flipping, elbow taps, all kinds of dumb stuff over the years. If this bothers u then get a life. The guy is finally doing his job.

    • Jon - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:04 PM

      Brown is actually playing and producing numbers and utley is on the bench; how is utley leading in all star votes over brown. This is another joke in baseball.

  20. Jim - Jun 6, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    So any comment on the fact that Brown is the first phillie homegrown outfielder with a shot at the all star game since 1978? Seems my whole life they have been rolling out prospects that don’t pan out. Burrell was ok. But there have been no home grown outfielders since Luzinski and you have to go back to Ashburn and Callison before that (thats 2 since 1965 from 3 positions and none since 1978) The only position that is even close to that is first base (only Howard) but that is one not 3 postions. There have been 4 home grown all star catchers since 1978. Granted the Phillies have done a great job over the years trading for outfielders but we shouldn’t need to wax poetic over Bob Dernier or Lonny Smith. Seems that their should be some work done on developing outfield talent.

    • Pete D - Jun 6, 2013 at 5:09 PM

      Burrell never made an ASG? Figure he had one in there somewhere.

  21. Sean - Jun 6, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    What the eff is he supposed to do, walk over to the bat boy and gently place it in his hands? Maybe carry a nice fluffy pillow and blanket to the plate with him so he can tuck it in for some rest until his next at bat!! Some people just love making something from nothing, but this whole thing is really ridiculous. Wanna see something really disturbing, watch the Capitals pile on each other like a fruity highway pile up each time they score.

  22. Fin - Jun 6, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    These people are idiots… What about that little dance Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder do (that shadow-boxing display). Let me tell you something… Brown plays in Philly… If he gets plunked, it will not be the last batter hit in that ball game. Let him have a little fun… And yes if it was another team team doing it, it would bother us too. But isn’t that what sports is all about???

  23. Brian Moore - Jun 6, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    He is a punk


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