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Shawn Andrews accuses Donovan McNabb of mistreatment, says he requested a trade

Nov 8, 2013, 5:42 PM EDT

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Left: Shawn Andrews. Right: Donovan McNabb hugging Shawn’s brother, Stacy.

Fresh off the heels of the Richie Incognito-Jonathan Martin situation, former Eagles offensive lineman Shawn Andrews is accusing his ex-teammates of mistreating him during his time in Philadelphia.

Of all people, Andrews had plenty to say about Donovan McNabb — albeit without ever saying much of anything.

Andrews went on 97.5 The Fanatic Friday afternoon and, in an interview with Mike Missanelli, accused his teammates, specifically McNabb, of spreading lies about his health, his eating habits and other assorted topics.

Quick refresher: The Eagles selected Andrews with the 16th pick pf the 2004 draft, and although he was a three-time Pro Bowler, he played only five seasons with the team. Andrews not only dealt with his physical health issues while in Philadelphia, but also mental health issues. This 2009 New York Times article details Andrews’ battles with depression, which were well-noted during his career as an Eagle.

Fast-forward to Friday and Andrews was asked if he had ever encountered treatment similar to what Martin went through down in Miami.

“I think this will be my first time on record saying that, but I did. I did. I faced a lot of that. … “But I’ll tell you what I faced. I worked with — I have to use my words carefully — but I worked with a lot of guys who didn’t have everybody’s best interests at heart. The only guy I could trust on that team was flat out Brian Dawkins. Now you imagine. I’m going to tell you this and you can maybe figure it out and try to decode it. Would you want to go to work at a place where you’re putting your heart out every single day and the guy that you’re protecting is saying things behind your back that isn’t true?”

Asked specifically if he was referring to McNabb, Andrews said “yes.” But when pressed for specifics, Andrews struggled, often repeated that he has to “choose his words carefully,” and then remained unfocused and often rambled. For example, asked to describe what McNabb ever did to him, he answered:

“Man, where do I start? … I always think, if I was one of the first guys to get a $100 million contract, I’ve got endorsements, I’m on commercials, is that not enough attention in and of itself?”

Eventually, Andrews described how his teammates allegedly lied about his eating habits during a contract negotiation. Andrews says he had stopped going to McDonald’s months beforehand but that his teammates told team officials that he was eating fast food every day after practice.

“Bullying is a strong word. I wouldn’t consider it bullying. [But you're] putting everything you have on the line for another person, and that person is saying some very, very, very untrue things about you to other guys … how would that make you feel?

Here’s a slightly more concrete example. Andrews did not report to training camp in 2008. He later revealed that he was battling depression and ultimately sought a return to the team. He went to coach Andy Reid and asked if he could address the locker room.

“He gave me the floor for however long I needed. It may have taken me 15-20 minutes to say what I needed to say, but one of the leaders on the team — how does it make you feel when he’s sitting there, looking you in the eye, rolling his eyes at everything you say, when you’re pouring your heart out as a man amongst men, and he (McNabb) just rolls his eyes and blows you off.”

He says he eventually sought recourse, although he did not say when.

“I went and asked Coach Reid for a trade. It goes far beyond the locker room. People think it’s a band of brothers. But these are my co-workers and I understood that really early on. And you can’t trust anybody.”

So, did he ever confront McNabb?

“I did. … He did what most people would do — he denied it. But there’s just so much evidence, man.”

And that’s really where this story breaks down. Andrews repeatedly asserted mistreatment at the hands of his teammates, but much of what was described seems to lack a particular gravity. It’s likely that he and Donovan McNabb did not get along, but it’s unclear it’s anything more than that. Although none of us were privy to their interactions, McNabb also seems pretty low on the list of guys you would think of as potentially being “a bully.”

Finally, there’s the issue of Andrews as a potentially unreliable narrator, which he addresses:

“I been thinking about this before the interview, like how my credibility is under question. … But I’ve really been trying figure out how I want to say this stuff and it’s just a whole lot. … “I’m of a very sound mind and body.”

Is this anything more than a misunderstanding? Is it anything more than pettiness? Is it anything more than the typical shit co-workers talk behind each other’s backs in every work environment across America? Maybe. Maybe not. But Andrews seem to think it is, and all we have is what he’s offering. Other than this:

Add Shawn Andrews to the list of former Eagles who have a problem with Donovan McNabb.

  1. Bernard Williams - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Who cares what this burnout has to say? Go back to your grandmother’s basement and get your Michael Phelps on. Loser.

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    • Greg - Nov 8, 2013 at 6:06 PM

      ^classy, glad to hear Bdawks legacy only continues to grow

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    • Jason R. - Nov 8, 2013 at 6:08 PM

      America’s Reaction To Mental Illness: Chapter One.

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  2. Bernard Williams - Nov 8, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Bob Saget/Cocaine addict: Marijuana is not a drug. I used to suck dick for coke.
    Rehab patient: I seen him [do it]!
    Bob Saget/Cocaine addict: Now that’s an addiction, man. You ever suck some dick for marijuana?

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    • mike - Nov 8, 2013 at 6:23 PM

      Hey. That’s cool. I saw a movie once also.

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    • Robb - Nov 8, 2013 at 6:27 PM

      No, No, I can’t say i have

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  3. willh888 - Nov 8, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    bit weird. he totally outs a guy but then tip toes around specifics. If you’re going to say it just say it.

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    • mike - Nov 8, 2013 at 8:07 PM

      I heard it live on the radio. I felt the same way. But I think he might have held back because of slander lawsuits. It’s one thing to say it among friends. It’s another thing to broadcast it on the radio.

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    • Joseph g.weaver jr. - Dec 1, 2013 at 9:14 PM

      Easy to say, but unless you suffer, as it seems he still does, he even admits I have to choose my words carefully….good for you Bernard, why, because you put your ass on the line, and if you ever hurt again, please leave the media out ,why, because they will cause you more pain…look at incognito, suspended, with pay,,,,and martin…..tell me his status, I think I know…one thing,he will never play in the NFL again!….sad commentary on the NFL and they wonder why people with MST syndrome in the military never go to their superiors for support…..because their is none!!! FESS UP!!

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  4. Cameron - Nov 9, 2013 at 8:11 AM

    I’m sure, just as John Martin, we have/had no idea what this guys going through. Although, being a die hard Eagles fan myself, I would not expect this coming from McNabb. But as someone else stated, I’m glad the Dawkins legacy continues.

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    • docdeath20 - Nov 9, 2013 at 11:17 AM

      Well Put not McCryBaby his Mommy and Daddy would have complained. Just like Eric like Lindros’s Mommy and Daddy

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  5. docdeath20 - Nov 9, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    If i had his size or Martin’s size anybody they gave me any crap I would have kicked their A$$ and stuffed them in a locker like the Jerome Brown, Seth Joyner, Byron Evans and Reggie White back in the day. I remember an interview on 610 with Keith Jackson and he was asked if they would have tolerated TO’s crap when he went off on McCrybaby, and Jackson said we would have kicked his A$$ and stuffed him in a locker and told him the next time he runs his mouth would be the last.

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    • BenE. - Nov 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM

      Everyone is a tough guy when they talk about “what I would do.”

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      • docdeath20 - Nov 9, 2013 at 1:11 PM

        No Ben E I am a tough guy and only making a point where that response came from only God knows. If I was 6:4 weighed over 325 lbs built like a brick SH-T house if I couldn’t stand the abuse I was kick A$$ or die trying buddy just making a point

      • Trotter54 - Nov 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM

        I think the key here is that he said “What I would do if I were Martin’s size”. He is not saying he is a tough guy, he is saying if he were that big, he would not be putting up with people’s shit.

      • docdeath20 - Nov 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM

        Thanks Trot this knuckle head took whatever I said the wrong way, I been an Eagle’s fan since 1962 when I watched on Sunday’s with my dad and I know back in the Jerome Brown days, Martin or Incognito would have been stuffed in lockers for acting like babies that’s all I was pointing out again thanks love the name was at cow town today and was going to buy a retro jersey of Trotter’s #54 however it was a 3X I could have fit my family in it as well only 20 bucks.

      • Michael Tandino - Nov 9, 2013 at 1:53 PM

        docdeath interpreted: “I’ve been an Eagles fan since 1962, which makes me an authority on Jonathan Martin’s life choices.”

      • docdeath20 - Nov 9, 2013 at 2:03 PM

        why all these ridiculous responses especially from an Italian guy I was pointing out being an Eagle fan since 1962 meant i saw a SH-T load of players play here from franklin field/ vet and now this place the STINk and the old players wouldn’t have let it get in to the press they would have handled matters in house that’s all my point was wow sorry

      • Michael Tandino - Nov 9, 2013 at 1:56 PM

        Also: “I’d kick ass or die trying.” You’d die? You’d literally die? You’d say to Richie Incognito, “We’re going to fight, and I’m totally OK if this is a death match.”

        Now, on the one hand, I doubt this is the case. On the other hand, I’d endorse you getting massacred by Richie Incognito.

      • Michael Tandino - Nov 9, 2013 at 2:07 PM

        I’m still hung up on this: You’d “kick ass or die trying.”

        You have an unlimited array of choices. You could simply go home, and live the rest of your life with a lot of money and a Stanford education. You could join a new team, and make more money, and keep playing football. You could come back to the Dolphins. You could play in the CFL. You could start a business. You could move to Luxemborg. You could bake bread everyday for the rest of your life. You can absolutely do anything you want. Your potential is limitless.

        And your response, to being harassed by one guy, or maybe a group of guys, would be to “kick ass or die trying.”

        You know what? I’ll pass on the super model wife. I’d much rather lay down my life to prove something to Richie Incognito. Otherwise, people with less money and a worse education, 95 percent of whom have never met me, will say I’m “soft.”

      • Michael Tandino - Nov 9, 2013 at 2:14 PM

        “especially from an Italian guy” — let me get back to you. My head just exploded and I’m trying to reassemble the bits of my brain that are now coating the walls.

      • docdeath20 - Nov 9, 2013 at 2:23 PM

        no need only messing with you buddy I am a very proud italian so wheN I saw the last name i thought i would mention it, just kidding have a drink on me

      • BenE. - Nov 9, 2013 at 3:04 PM

        There is more to it than Jonathan Martin’s size. It seems like few, if any, of Martin’s teammates were in his corner. So fighting Incognito, or “kicking ass or die trying” as you would do, probably wouldn’t have made the situation better. It probably would have further ostracized Martin in the locker room.

        How about the teammates who stood around letting this shit play out to the extremes? Then those same teammates want to cry foul when Martin goes public and say it should have been handled in-house? The time to handle it in-house came and went. None of the Dolphins were man enough to stand up for their teammate Martin.

        So to say it’s as simple as “kicking ass or die trying” shows how out of touch you are with the situation and team sports in general. When there are 50 other guys who are letting Incognito do what he was doing (and whom have since defended Incognito), it’s just not that simple.

      • docdeath20 - Nov 9, 2013 at 3:17 PM

        Wow you really are a knuckle head it was just an expression kicking A$$ or die trying it’s people like you who are clueless i been following sports when you were a gleam in daddy’s eyes, I forgot more then you and most of the ignorant wet dreams who respond as such can ever imagine. so how about giving the computer back to mommy and daddy and go watch sesame street maybe you can learn something. have a nice day and keep up the stupid post pretty soon nobody will entertain your stupidity

  6. Lupton Pittman - Nov 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    Would you rather have Joe Pesci or Jonathan Martin on your football team?

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    • docdeath20 - Nov 9, 2013 at 4:05 PM

      Joe P at least we would laugh

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