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Shawn Andrews: Donovan McNabb was degrading, spread rumors

Nov 20, 2013, 11:37 AM EDT

source:  Former All-Pro offensive lineman Shawn Andrews was back in the news a couple weeks ago claiming he was bullied by Donovan McNabb while a member of the Eagles. Andrews declined to get too deep into specifics at the time, but he assured us McNabb rolled his eyes a few times.

What Andrews wouldn’t tell Mike Missanelli on 97.5 The Fanatic, he shared instead with Nate Olson for a publication called Sync Weekly (via Deadspin). This time he and his brother Stacy—who had a dismal stint of his own on Philadelphia’s offensive line—paint a scathing portrait of the entire Birds locker room, with McNabb as one of the ring leaders.

Shall we sample the sniping?

 “[McNabb] was a big part of it — he was a big part of my issues there. Bully is a strong word, but he was degrading to me and spread rumors. It’s bothered me that I haven’t really spoken about it.”

“I went into Coach [Andy] Reid’s office and told him it might be a good idea if I was traded because I was so fed up that I was afraid I might do some uncharacteristic and uncool things,” Andrews says. “I’m a loving guy and so many guys have gotten it twisted up. They totally misunderstood me. When you are dealing with a guy who presumably has everything on the outside looking in — commercials, endorsements and making a $10 million contract — and it’s still not enough attention for him.”

“I poured my heart out. I’m not a public speaker, so I was nervous,” Andrews says. “But I felt it had to be done, so I was standing there talking, and in the middle of talking to them I was making eye contact with as many of the [players] as I could. So guess who was looking at me rolling his eyeballs? Can you guess who was doing that while I was pouring my heart out to my teammates? You know how that made me feel? After that, my thoughts were so screwed up. Then I started to stutter and thought, ‘These guys probably think I’m full of sh*t.’ At that point I really cared. [McNabb] was rolling his eyes at me the whole time.”

In the nearly 4,000-word piece (seriously), Andrews discusses being bullied as a child, his well-publicized battle with depression, and contemplating suicide. There’s some heavy stuff in there that nobody should make light of.

Then of course there’s what he’s saying about McNabb and the structure of the Eagles locker room circa 2007-09—when he went AWOL as training camp opened and later couldn’t get on the field due to injuries—which comes off as a tad melodramatic and is littered with contradictions.

Andrews felt ostracized, yet admits he rarely talked to teammates. He claims teammates spread rumors about him, but gossips about their behavior in the shower (seriously) and extramarital affairs. He says he’s just trying to focus on positive things and stay away from negative energy, yet here we are, three years after his pro career ended with a one-year stint on the Giants.

In the end, he viewed his time in Philly in a very negative light:

“It just felt like I was in a living hell,” Andrews says of his time with the Eagles.

The issue with Andrews’ allegations is he really brings very little concrete evidence at all, even admitting McNabb denied spreading the rumors. He doesn’t understand why he was a target, but what exactly was he even a target of? It’s entirely possible any rumors about Andrews took on a life of their own because he was a strange dude who seemed to keep to himself, not out of a concerted effort to harm his reputation. Other than that, there was no direct name-calling, no hazing, nothing of the sort apparently.

I don’t doubt for a second some of Andrews’ teammates didn’t care for him or his personality, but that’s life.  It’s a shame he had a problem with some people, but maybe he needs to look in the mirror too.

>> Not always sunny in Philadelphia [Sync]

  1. longhopdudes - Nov 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    after a *six-month* stint with the Giants.

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  2. ochospantalones - Nov 20, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    It’s clear the Shawn Andrews has some legitimate mental health issues, so people shouldn’t jump on him too harshly. But as for his allegations, there is really very little there. Both he and McNabb sound like insecure people who were disappointed when the attention shifted away from them. McNabb was the star QB, so he usually won the battle for attention. No one comes off looking good here, but this is hardly “I’ll sh*t in your mouth, I’ll kill you” territory.

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  3. Nicky Dynamite - Nov 20, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Doesn’t Andrews know that 5 will always love him.

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    • #5 Will Always Love U - Nov 20, 2013 at 4:01 PM

      Nice, go back into your life of oblivion Andrews

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  4. Simmonds17 - Nov 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    I tread carefully around the subject of mental illness, having firsthand experience with depression (myself having suffered it, as well as friends and loved ones.) But Andrews really does not come off all that well here. I mean, he wanted to play longer with the Giants? Hmm, I wonder if they wanted him?

    My take on Andrews is that, like Antone Davis before him, he’s a sensitive, low-motor guy who got pigeonholed as a football player because of his size and couldn’t say no to the money. But there was no passion or real desire there and it eventually showed thru. In fairness to Andrews he made 3 Pro Bowls anyway, whereas Davis was never much more than adequate.

    If the Eagles organization was so terrible btw, why did they bring in Stacy Andrews and Jason Peters to try to create a better environment for Shawn Andrews. There will be a-holes anywhere you work – utlimately, it’s what you make of it, for the most part.

    Meanwhile, a current Eagle is getting postive pub today – check out the Grantland piece on Connor Barwin.

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  5. Phillystines - Nov 20, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    What a surprise; an insensitive article in a Philly blog. You guys are an embarrassment. Just like your current team(s).

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    • Andrew Kulp - Nov 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM

      Which part is insensitive exactly? The part where I don’t automatically take Shawn Andrews at his word? The part where I point out he’s spreading tasteless rumors exactly like the ones he claims his teammates spread about him? Or the part where I suggest it might be time Andrews accept some responsibility for the fact that he apparently wasn’t very well liked in the Birds locker room? This is somebody who acted like a child (thus the nickname Big Kid), admitted for this story that he didn’t really talk to the guys in the locker room yet was all over social media to the point where it got him in trouble with the organization, and then he wonders why coworkers are talking about him trying to figure out what his deal is. And he’s throwing mud at Donovan McNabb no less, which say what you want about the man’s personality, there aren’t too many people out there who would say he’s a bad guy. I’m not poking fun at Andrews’ mental illness, I just don’t find anything of substance in his comments.

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      • Derek - Nov 21, 2013 at 9:32 AM

        The only thing that was insensitive is how Kulp just just went all Foles on Phillystines. I am sure that McNabb didnt sign one of Phillystines 100 footballs he brought to a practice back in the day. I would like to know what Dawkins has to say.

  6. 2sentz - Nov 21, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    What the hell is it with Philly’s never-ending run of oddball quarterback situations?

    Which of our QB’s has traveled the most underachieving-ly bizarre path over the years, Cunningham, McNabb or Vick?

    Sure it’s all been circus-sideshow-kinda entertaining, but can’t we just get a normal guy in the house for a while? Jesus it’s been 25 years….

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    • ukno - Dec 1, 2013 at 4:56 PM

      Underachievers. Someone needs to get their facts straight, with McNabb, Philly went to several consecutive playoffs and one Superbowl appearance ( in which they dominated and almost actually won).

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  7. Ron - Nov 21, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    This is more proof of what I’ve been saying for 15 years. The football player of today couldn’t hold player jockstraps of 30 years ago. Way too many 250 lb. to 330 lb. pussies today. Any lineman that says he was bullied by anyone isn’t a man. I’ve been involved with and watched football for 50 years but now I say shut it down. Much as I love football it’s tme to pull the plug

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    • willh888 - Nov 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM

      You can name two 330 lbs pussies.

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      • john - Nov 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM

        Your mother and your wife.

      • willh888 - Nov 21, 2013 at 1:47 PM

        damn, you couldn’t been on that mtv show yo

  8. Godzirra - Nov 21, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    I think all these type of stories that have been coming out lately with NFL players is connected to lawyers or some law firm. Someone like Andrews could be told how much money he might be able to get out of this kind of thing and they run with it.

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