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Flyers Notes: Bobby Ryan Trade Rumor, Danny Briere a Goner, Bryz Next?

Jun 19, 2013, 9:30 AM EDT

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It’s been a busy and frequently strange 24-plus hours around the Flyers to say the least. These are just a handful of the developments since the latest on Mark Streit and Jonathan Bernier.

• Bobby Ryan to Philadelphia is starting to have that inevitable feel to it simply because the Cherry Hill native has been linked to the club for years. According to Tim Panaccio, the Flyers and Ducks are at it again.

The potential deal would send Braydon Coburn and this year’s 11th overall draft choice to Anaheim for Ryan. The 25-year-old winger scored 30 goals in each of his first four full seasons in the NHL, though he fell off that pace in 2013, netting 11 in 46 games.

Obviously, the Flyers would be helping themselves with a scoring winger, but they would also be creating another hole on their already depleted defensive corps.

Also, giving up their first-round pick seems a bit much given how deep the NHL draft is this season and when the Flyers are in desperate need of defensive help.

Coburn is coming off of disappointing season that ended early because of a separated shoulder, and given how well Erik Gustafsson and Oliver Lauridsen played in his absence, you could make the case he’s expendable.  On the other hand, as Panotch remarks in the video below, the 11th pick is a bit much – especially considering Ryan might be a luxury for the league’s ninth-ranked offense.

What was weird about all of this however was the Inquirer’s Sam Carchidi sort of refuted the story, saying he heard otherwise earlier on Tuesday. Carchidi added the story sounded “iffy.” Maybe Paul Holmgren is trolling everybody?

>> Sources: Flyers interested in deal for Ducks’ Ryan [CSN]

• One thing’s for sure, Homer wasn’t joking around when he shut down Ritch Winter, agent for Ilya Bryzgalov.

Word got out on Tuesday that Winter had been assured by Holmgren that Bryz was safe. In spite of the rumors, the organization would not be using a compliance buyout on the remaining seven years of the netminder’s contract. Frank Seravalli for the Daily News confirmed:

This mind you was mere hours after reports emerged that the Flyers were frontrunners for Bernier. Maybe the front office had already deemed the asking price was too high. Maybe it was a smokescreen compelling the Kings to stop wasting everybody’s time with this Jake Voracek nonsense.

Holmgren put that notion to rest, along with the fairy tale that he promised anything to Bryzgalov or his agent. Tim Panaccio followed up to obtain this gem:

I didn’t assure Ritch Winter of anything. When the time comes to do our business we will do whatever is best for our hockey team.

Ilya Bryzgalov is still the best soap opera in Philly sports. Will he stay or will he go? Even Paul Holmgren doesn’t know!

• The one thing we can confirm besides this offseason being far too chaotic already (and they’ve hardly done anything) is the obvious. Per ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun, the Flyers have informed Danny Briere that they will invoke the amnesty clause after the Stanley Cup Finals conclude, deleting the final two years of his contract.

A source told ESPN.com that Briere and Paul Holmgren met last week, at which time the Flyers’ GM informed the veteran center of the team’s decision. No bitter feelings, though, as I’m told Briere feels Holmgren handled it with class.

At $6.5 million, Briere’s cap figure is the largest on the team, but his production on the ice has been severely lacking for the past two seasons, his worst in over a decade. He turns 36 this October, and has been battling an increasing number of injuries, so there was little reason to believe it would improve much.

We’ll certainly reflect further on Briere’s six seasons with the Flyers once the move is official.

>> Rumblings: Letang, Briere, coaches & more [ESPN]

  1. JohnMFD - Jun 19, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Why do sports writers (and hockey players too – I’m looking at you Claude Giroux) qualify sentences with “Obviously…” so often? I thought a large part of being a journalist was to talk about things that are not obvious to everyone else? It adds no value to the statement you’re making. Humbug!

    Anyway, that Bobby Ryan deal sounds ridiculous on its face. Although, if the rumor is true, I assume the Flyers would get the Ducks’ number 26 pick. Maybe they’re banking on getting a late-round Defenseman? Also, I’ve read articles about Couturier vs. Laughton as trade-bait. Specifically, that Scott Laughton in the system may make Couturier expendable. I’m having trouble understanding that logic. Why not include Laughton instead?

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    • chew - Jun 19, 2013 at 10:57 AM

      Include Laughton? Do you work in the FO?

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      • JohnMFD - Jun 19, 2013 at 11:34 AM

        I was referencing articles where writers have advocated for including Couturier in a deal for [Name Fantasy Player Who Will Save The Franchise] for the very reason that Scott Laughton is a promising prospect who would take Couturier’s place. What I am saying is: this logic doesn’t make any sense to me and I was interested to hear why they wouldn’t see Laughton as expendable rather than Couturier? Trying to find the article that I read yesterday that mentioned this… but failing.

      • chew - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:39 PM

        I hear ya, but I just see way too much of an upside with Laughton, as he will most likely make the team this Fall. Plus, as deep as this year’s draft is, and as “NHL-ready” a lot of these first-rounders have been the past two years (Coots, Laughton…) I feel that the Flyers don’t need to give up on their young talent, per usual…entertain offers, sure, but draft a d-man in the first round, and develop what ya currently have, which is not all that bad.

      • mykhuis - Jun 19, 2013 at 5:28 PM

        Laughton will not be on the team this fall unless it’s absolutely necessary. The Flyers would like him to spend at least most of the year with the Phantoms.

  2. Lol - Jun 19, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    I was pumped when I saw Coburn’s name. First round pick is a bit much though.

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    • mykhuis - Jun 19, 2013 at 5:25 PM

      Coburn had a bad season last year in part because he was asked to anchor a defensive pairing that included Bruno Gervais. Coburn is good when he is the “second” guy on a pair, as he was when paired with Kimmo Timonen (2007-08, 2009-11) and Matt Carle (2008-09). He can skate but is not comfortable making the breakout pass or lugging the puck up ice. He had to be “that guy” last year, and he struggled. I suppose Laviolette tried it because of his brief success with Grossmann in 2012, but that was indeed short-lived.

      If the Flyers need to ditch anyone on the back end, it’s Meszaros.

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  3. hatter12 - Jun 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    First rounders seems a bit steep but I agree with the post – this Ryan rumor has been going on for so long the last couple years it just feels like it’s going to happen.

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  4. willh888 - Jun 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    if you looked at Ryan’s scouting report and you applied that to the guy you’re going to draft in the first round.. knowing what you know about Bobby Ryan, i take him all day. Part with the pick. The risk/reward is worth it.

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  5. Mike - Jun 19, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Briere says he will miss playing for the Flyers organization and in front of great fans. He will forever cherish the sense of community he found here in the Delaware Valley and the great bonds he has made. He then added that he’s not sure where he will end up. but there is like a 99% chance he will be skating around with the Stanley Cup raised above his head next June.

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    • mykhuis - Jun 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM

      Doubtful, unless he finds himself on a team with cap space who can afford a defensive liability that is essentially a luxury for if / when the team makes the playoffs.

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      • Mike - Jun 19, 2013 at 7:35 PM

        It’s a joke, dude.

        For the past few years, players that the Flyers have gotten rid of have gone onto great success.

  6. tom carney - Jul 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    bobbys waitin for his contract to end n he’ll be a flyer within 2 years!!!!

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