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Vick Throws for Career High 428 Yards in Loss to Chargers

Sep 15, 2013, 5:00 PM EDT

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Good news: Michael Vick looked fantastic for the Eagles under center. Bad news: Philip Rivers wasn’t coming off of an ACL injury, nor did the opposing quarterback miss all of the preseason.

The Birds’ defense didn’t get the job done against Rivers quite the same way they did versus Robert Griffin III in Washington last Monday, nor did he look much like a quarterback in decline as the stories out of San Diego might have you believe. The 10-year veteran connected on 36 of 47 passes for 419 yards and three touchdowns, continuously keeping the chains moving (SD converted 10 of 15 third downs), and helping the Bolts get the last laugh on their final drive by moving Nick Novak into range for the game-winning 46-yard kick with four seconds remaining.

The Chargers completed a 33-30 upset of Philadelphia in the home opener at the Linc on Sunday, but while there are many culprits in the loss, you can’t find much wrong with Vick’s performance. The Eagles’ QB was almost every bit as good as Rivers, hitting on 24 of 37 attempts for 428 yards and a couple of scores, plus added another on the ground.

Unfortunately, there were just a few many numbers working against the good guys. San Diego dominated time of possession thanks to their third-down prowess (40:17 to 19:43), while Philly’s nine penalties cost them more than just 82 yards — it took at least one DeSean Jackson touchdown off the board, not to mention helped the Chargers convert quite a few of those third downs.

There was still plenty to like about what the Eagles did on offense, but defensively they got steamrolled. San Diego’s porous offensive line was perfectly fine for most of the afternoon, allowing Rivers to get comfortable in the pocket. Defensive coordinator Bill Davis’ unit was also not able to cover the Bolts’ barely adequate receiving corps, particularly alternating safeties Nate Allen and Earl Wolff.

It wasn’t an altogether embarrassing performance necessarily, but it is one that perhaps Chip Kelly’s crew allowed to slip through their fingertips. The Chargers controlled the ball early which allowed them to build a nice lead, but once the offense got clicking the Eagles clawed right back into the contest. As well as he played, Vick had several missed opportunities with Jackson as well.

In other words, the loss will rest heavily on the defensive end. More to come from The700Level over the next 24 hours or so, but it looks like Chip’s undefeated season is over, and an appearance in BCS Championship Game is now in jeopardy.

  1. Liam - Sep 15, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    The bar I was watching the game unfortunately only had the audio feed going from the Cowboys game. Can anyone explain what happened on that catch, I believe by Ertz on the first drive, that was ruled incomplete in the end zone. On the replay it looked like he had his arm under it , but you couldn’t see much after that and Fox didn’t show any other angles. I thought that was a for sure TD based on that, but if someone has an explanation of what happened, it’d be appreciated!

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    • Matt S. - Sep 15, 2013 at 5:11 PM

      It was James Casey not Ertz. There was a replay showing the ball coming lose and hitting the ground as he was coming to the ground in the end zone. It wasn’t a great throw by Vick but there was no excuse for not controlling the ball there.

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      • Andrew Kulp - Sep 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM

        You’re right, it was Casey, not Ertz. Regardless, I fault Vick more than the receiver there.

      • Liam - Sep 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM

        Ah thanks, the replay I saw only had him initially having his arm under it but when he rolled over it the view was blocked

    • Andrew Kulp - Sep 15, 2013 at 5:12 PM

      Ertz bobbled the ball while going to the ground. Rules state the receiver much demonstrate possession all the way to the ground. Bad throw by Vick there mainly, but good game otherwise.

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      • Hiccup - Sep 15, 2013 at 6:05 PM

        Was it Ertz or Casey? I’m confused.

      • willh888 - Sep 15, 2013 at 7:19 PM

        Nate Allen still has to be one of the worst players on this roster. I usually don’t despise hometown players, but that dude isn’t good at anything. Secondary had a rough day in general, but week after week Allen stands out as one of the worst starters in the league. Maybe I’m missin’ something

      • willh888 - Sep 15, 2013 at 7:19 PM

        reply blarg, my bad

      • Emil - Sep 15, 2013 at 7:46 PM

        You blame Vick for a ball Casey had BOTH hands on and dropped? HAHAHA, unbelievable! Not every ball is gonna be between the numbers, that’s when a wide-out has to make a play. The problem is Eagles only have one real wide out, and that’s D Jax. You think the offense is crazy now imagine if we had a legit 2 and 3 at wide-out.

      • Andrew Kulp - Sep 15, 2013 at 8:56 PM

        Um, yes Emil, I give the quarterback at least half the blame when his target is wide open from less than five yards away and the QB can barely put it near him. Only a super Vick fanboy would feel otherwise.

      • nyphilsphan - Sep 15, 2013 at 9:45 PM

        Vick should have had 550 yards and 2 more TDs. He made a lot of good throws today, but he also threw behind a lot of guys who could have gotten another 10-20 yards, missed DeSean wide open pretty egregiously there.

        I don’t set the bar for him at 500 yards and 4 TDs- he just missed more easy throws than usual today, yet he still put up a career high in yards. Tells you something about the coach, at least. Vick had good game but great QBs win that game. It’s just a fact.

      • nyphilsphan - Sep 15, 2013 at 10:10 PM

        Also, Emil, wouldn’t it be nice to have a QB you didn’t constantly have to defend and apologize for after every game? Do you really think we’re here suggesting he’s a bad player? If not, can you understand why people might be critical of the aging vet commanding the offense when the team is rebuilding and all the evidence suggests he isn’t a superbowl QB? We (meaning all the crazy haters who just don’t get it) would love if he was a great QB that we had faith in to be healthy and consistent enough to win it all.

        I’m starting to have faith in our Coach again be the kind of presence that could, eventually, get that done -once we go through another few draft cycles and rebuild the secondary and find out who might be under center for this team in 3 years. Because even you know it’s not gonna be Vick.

    • willh888 - Sep 15, 2013 at 7:15 PM

      and you remained at this bar? Slap the owner, baker’s dozen

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    • Emil - Sep 16, 2013 at 12:04 AM

      Nope, sorry Kulp and nyphilsfan, I don’t have to keep defending Vick his numbers speak for themselves. Like I told Kulp Vick would play lights out with an offense built specifically around him. You dudes like to criticize Vick because you don’t like him, period. That’s is the ONLY reason why you would criticize a so called “aging” QB with a 122 QB rating and a +400 yard passing game. YUP, you criticize even with those numbers, YUP, sounds crazy don’t it. smh.

      Just like you guys supposedly call Vick out Im gonna be around to call you so called sports writers out when you try to feed us BS, like you are now. Everybody who knows football knows Casey with BOTH hands on the ball should have made that catch, but you and Kulp of course. So why is he writing about a sport he seems not know nothing about.

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      • nyphilsphan - Sep 16, 2013 at 4:23 AM

        Vick is a relic of the past: both for this team and the NFL. He has proven time and time again he isn’t going to win the big game except for ONE SEASON- 2004. New coach in town, new vibe, same signal caller with the same flashy numbers until his body breaks down in a few weeks and the inevitable Nick Foles experiment continues.

        It’s not about Vick. It’s about the Eagles putting us through the motions until Chipper has a team full of “his guys”. Chip has little accountability for the current roster, and I think people around here are reacting to the sinking suspicion that he likes this lack of accountability. Moreover, Vick was the bet choice to prove that his offense works in the NFL. I’d rather watch the team work toward a superbowl from the very bottom than watch a “proof of concept” season as we wait for a mobile QB to emerge on the fringes of the first round of next year’s draft. Maybe he’s just smart in a town full of negative sports energy, but Vick being out there just means to people who REALLY know football that it’s just another year before we get to start looking to the future. It’s like getting a divorce then moving in with your ex wife’s best friend. This team is in desperate need of a clean slate. Where the fans don’t have to feel like they’re still smelling the rotting flesh of the Reid era every time they turn on the game.

        This isn’t about Vick as a person. It’s about the fact Nate Allen is somehow still playing for this team how Billy Davis looks like the perfect D-coordinator to pick to give Chip the big shootout type games he wants to play before he settles down and actually pulls a promising young coach from a good defense and not someone who has always been well below average and looks like he isn’t even trying anymore. This isn’t fantasy football. Somehow numbers are more important than wins and losses and the future success of the team. I’d rather find out more about Nick Foles in a loss to the Chargers then watch Vick have big numbers in a loss to the Chargers at this point.

      • Emil - Sep 16, 2013 at 6:44 AM

        Nyphilsfan,

        If you knew football you wouldn’t be waiting on Nick Foles, because he is done here and if you can’t see that yet, you my friend, don’t know football. But go ahead, keep waiting on Foles, hold your breath while your at it.

      • Chutley - Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34 AM

        For what its worth, as a PHL fan living in Chicago i find Kulp to be one of the few if any philly guys with any notion of journalism in their approach. The newspaper beat guys are about as helpful as the fantasy football discussions at our Eagles bar.

      • Emil - Sep 16, 2013 at 11:46 AM

        Hey Chutley,

        In a general assessment that may be correct, but when it comes to Michael Vick, Kulp, like the overwhelmingly majority in Philly sports writing lacks professionalism as a journalist simply because his approach with Vick is simply too biased, look at the article in question for instance. The title of the article gives you the impression that’s it’ all about Vick and his outstanding play yesterday with him setting a career high in passing yards in a game, but when you read the article it’s all about Phillip Rivers and the San Diego Chargers, save for one sentence concerning Vick.

      • nyphilsphan - Sep 16, 2013 at 3:47 PM

        Emil: since you haven’t read the content of my posts I’m not going to bother responding.

  2. Chris - Sep 15, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    By all rights that should be the last time Nate Allen sets foot on an NFL field.

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    • Matt S. - Sep 15, 2013 at 5:23 PM

      He looked LOST out there.

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    • nyphilsphan - Sep 15, 2013 at 9:54 PM

      I said it here last week after the win, and I’ll say it again after the loss: this team is going nowhere fast if it’s going to just concede the middle of the field because there is no confidence whatsoever in the safeties being able to stop anyone over the top.

      Remember what it was like to watch a defense with a good secondary? You could really appreciate the guys up front getting the job done, you knew who to blame for every bad play and who was responsible for every blown one. Now it’s just like a cascade of issues emanating from the saftey position that just make you throw up your hands in frustration. It’s like every 3rd and 7 since 2011 (aside from 2 quarters of football last week), you just KNOW the first down is coming but can’t look away. Evey deep ball that goes up at a crucial point, you, me and Phillip Rivers has known that Nate Allen hasn’t covered anything since his history books in grade-school. But there he is, week after week.

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      • nyphilsphan - Sep 15, 2013 at 9:56 PM

        *there was a sentence in there that was supposed to suggest there was a time when watching this defense was anything but a horror show. Clearly I was unable to express that.

      • willh888 - Sep 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM

        Some guys get a pass when their all out effort supersedes talent, results. Nate Allen has none of it. Small effort, little talent and constantly finds himself with his arms stretched out just hoping Football Player X falls down and doesn’t reach the endzone, again

      • nyphilsphan - Sep 15, 2013 at 10:43 PM

        He’s like the defensive version of an early Reid-era wide receiver. Except back then it was almost funny- they were so bad, but we were a good team and the only thing holding us back was a man who stood 6’3” and weighed about 125 pounds and James Thrash..and Freddie Mitchell and Torrance Sm….

        You know what, let’s not do that. It isn’t funny anymore. We win a few super bowls if the team placed any importance on the WR position before the defense fell into shambles.

        Speaking of: It’s possible Nate Allen is just buying Davis and Kelley some time this season to rebuild the D without having to catch as much flack about not making Safeties a priority in the off-season. Once they realized Phillips was done, they both sat down, watched some tape and said “I think we have to start Allen. Every fan with eyes knows he both a) sucks; b) was a yet another high, wasted pick by the previous regime; c) will keep us from realizing that it was in Chip’s power to throw someone ANYONE else back there, and within the GM’s power to recognize the need for a Free Safety since he got the damn job!

      • Chris - Sep 16, 2013 at 4:28 PM

        ^ if you wanna go with a “why is Nate Allen starting?” conspiracy theory, go with the obvious one: We’re tanking for Clowney or Bridgewater.

      • erzug - Sep 16, 2013 at 5:06 PM

        Losing CB Bradley Fletcher for the game certainly didn’t help matters any. Brandon Hughes was not a viable replacement. After all, if he wasn’t good enough to make the secondary on THIS team, that says it all.

  3. whatever - Sep 15, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Yep.Listen to this clown.He knows everything.He talks trash,belittles a team and players…..Ha Ha,I knew he was a clown when I read his article.Go chargers! And try to get some P-ssy some time soon.

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    • Hiccup - Sep 15, 2013 at 6:12 PM

      Maybe you are the loser talking trash under a synonym whatever.
      Burp

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  4. Matt S. - Sep 15, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Really wanted to see the offense work the clock on that last drive. I still don’t understand why they rushed to get a play off before the 2 minute warning when there was no need to hurry up and it ended up getting 2 players hurt and stopped the clock. You just can’t give San Diego the ball back with 1:45 and 2 time outs left when your defense was getting worked all game long. I’m impressed with this offense so far defense is obviously a work in progress to say the least. Time to get ready for Thursday.

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    • Hiccup - Sep 15, 2013 at 6:01 PM

      I agree, it seemed like poor time management from the Eagles side. What was the reason for stopping the clock before the Chargers attempting the last Feild goal? Was that to put more pressure on the kicker?
      Of course the Eagles would of had a much better chance if the quarter would of ended with a tie. It seems this game didn’t have the same sense of urgency and confident pace as last weeks game.all the better if the Eagles learn and win on Thursday. I’m excited for the team.

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      • nyphilsphan - Sep 15, 2013 at 10:17 PM

        He called a timeout to get 6 seconds back on the clock, then went all-in and called another for no apparent reason. A timeout is worth more than 6 seconds. 2 are worth a lot more. It ended up allowing the Chargers to get 4 more crucial yards and a much higher percentage FG. When the players are out on the field scratching their heads about why their coach just called multiple time outs, it’s hard to stay focused and come up with that game winning TFL or stop.

        He’s a rookie coach. It probably isn’t easy to forget the days when your team was up by 47 points back in college and you didn’t mind blowing a timeout just to make sure the rules are properly enforced if you’re a big football nerd like Chip is. But its time to graduate, Chip.

      • 2sentz - Sep 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM

        In the end using the TO’s didn’t matter. Moot point. He was already in range. Winning field goal would have been good from 10yds farther. At least we got the ball back. A music-city shot is better than no shot.

    • erzug - Sep 16, 2013 at 5:09 PM

      And it turns out that CK could have called a timeout (we did have 3 at the time) and avoided having to pull Vick from the game. Not an option in the NCAA rule book. He obviously didn’t know the rule since he said “No” to the question about calling a timeout in that situation during his post-game press conference.

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  5. Dan - Sep 15, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    I still don’t get why people think that TOP will be important for this team. This team is big play and fast paced oriented, so obviously when the offense is clicking a drive down the field should be 10 plays and only like 4 minutes. The defense might give up 9 minutes on a scoring drive of similar length.

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    • nyphilsphan - Sep 15, 2013 at 10:21 PM

      TOP doesn’t matter unless you look at the entire statistical history of the NFL and see that it does. Maybe if we had a bunch of probowlers on D with a bunch of future pro bowlers backing them up, but it isn’t realistic to expect a D that gave up big yardage in the first half to somehow turn it around and make adjustments if they’ve been on the field for the majority of the game and are totally gassed.

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  6. B.Kulp - Sep 15, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Did anyone else not think that a challenge should have been attempted when that Charger receiver got knocked out? It looked like a catch and fumble to me. I think the ball game out before his knee was down.

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    • Andrew Kulp - Sep 15, 2013 at 9:05 PM

      Yes! I said this on my live blog at B/R. I absolutely agree it should have been looked at.

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  7. yourboy - Sep 15, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    The 2 minute debacle had my head spinning, especially like others said the D just couldn’t get a stop on 3rd down.

    However, a few other factors:

    If Jackson doesn’t get that penalty, that ensuing kickoff is likely a touchback (like every kickoff today) and the ball doesn’t come all the way back down the field. You can play what-ifs all day and if the Eags recovered that it would have been game over.

    Phillip Rivers was on point today, but our secondary was a joke on two of Royals touchdowns, hell even all three. That play when we rushed 3, and Chung left Royal wide open was an absolute joke.

    I know they aren’t going to win them all but watching that awful mismanagement on that final scoring drive was insane. I kept screaming for those guys to stay in bounds on those last few plays, it would have made a world of difference and forced the Chargers to use their timeouts. To rush that play there at 2:12 is also insane. Felt like it was AR all over again.

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    • nyphilsphan - Sep 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

      Exactly. There was no evidence to suggest the Chargers D was going to make them work the rest of the clock to have a few chances in the RZ. We pretty much sleep-walked into FG range every drive after the first quarter. So why play like you needed every second? These are the philosophical adjustments Chip has to make- just missing the forest for the trees details (To continue the analogy- he’s great at making out little details in the trees to take advantage of the forest, but sometimes you have to take your eyes off the berry bush and realize the forest is on fire)

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  8. bizurk - Sep 16, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    I’d like to see a visit to Novacare by Kerry Rhodes this week. Gay or straight, he’s twice the safety of anyone on the roster.

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    • Ron - Sep 16, 2013 at 7:48 AM

      This entire conversation is laughable. You clowns need to come back down to earth. Quarterbacks miss throws. They throw interceptions. They even occasionally, seemingly lose games single handedly. You want to blame Vick for a few bad throws? That’s cool. You sound like illogical fuck raisins that wouldn’t be happen with Peyton Manning as your QB. And I don’t even like Vick! Simmer down. Realize your god damn defense lost you this game and stop acting as irrational as a woman PMSing

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      • yourboy - Sep 16, 2013 at 8:30 AM

        The offense was fine, and I only think 1 or 2 bozos are complaining about that. They shouldn’t have to need to put up 40+ points every week in order to win. This Loss is largely on the secondary play and the atrocious clock management in the final minutes.

      • bizurk - Sep 16, 2013 at 11:59 AM

        That’s not how reply works….. seriously, Kerry Rhodes. It would be a PR coup for the birds.


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