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Eagles you told Philly.com you’d rather the team keep over DeSean Jackson

Jan 13, 2014, 4:27 PM EDT

DeSean Jackson

With the Philadelphia Eagles’ offseason already a week old, various media outlets are running through the tried and true “Stay or Go” exercise. We did that for the club’s 11 impending free agents, but it seems a little silly to do for the entire roster and coaching staff since a large percentage are definitely returning.

Philly.com put a bit of a different spin on Stay or Go this year though by letting you, the reader, decide who should be back—and heavens, did you ever disappoint. Look no further than DeSean Jackson’s 57.8-percent approval rating, which was good for 37th out of the 61 players, coaches and front office members who were part of the polling

Among the players Eagles fans would rather keep over a two-time Pro Bowler were three wide receivers: Riley Cooper, Jeremy Maclin and even Jason Avant. Never mind Jackson is coming off of a career year in which he set personal bests in receptions (82) and yards (1,332) while coming up just 77 yards shy of setting the franchise’s single-season mark for receiving yards in a season.

Hell, Jackson only narrowly beat out Swoop, the damn mascot.

Amazingly enough, at 93.7 percent, Cooper was the receiver fans want the team to keep the most despite his season totals (47 REC, 835 YDS, 8 TD) falling well short of anything Jackson or Maclin have ever done. Riley Cooper, the same guy who posted a quarter of his 2013 production against the Oakland Raiders, averaged 3.6 receptions for 49.7 yards and 0.3 touchdowns over the final seven games of the season, and oh yeah, got caught using a racial slur just this past summer.

More Eagles people want more than Jackson: Jon Dorenbos, the long snapper; Chris Polk, the third-string running back; Matt Barkley, with five turnovers and no touchdown drives; and backup offensive lineman Dennis Kelly, who spent the entire year on the inactive list.

Look, I get Jackson is a polarizing player because of that giant chip on his shoulder, but this would be a lot easier to understand if he weren’t producing or were getting in trouble off the field. Neither of those things are the case. It really makes the fan base look bad when nearly half the folks believe the team would be better off without him.

For more fun and analysis with Philly.com’s Stay or Go results, be sure to check out Jimmy Kempski’s piece, which includes some fantastic MS Paint work. Some of the Top 5 might surprise you… although the bottom 5 most definitely will not.

>> Eagles fans ‘stay or go’ analysis, in MS Paint form [Philly.com]

  1. TartanSixNine - Jan 13, 2014 at 4:37 PM

    “It really makes the fan base look bad”

    They’re just doubling down on the batteries and snowballs-at-santa theme

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    • TartanSixNine - Jan 13, 2014 at 6:00 PM

      You downvoters clearly don’t get sarcasm. I will call you all “Sheldon”.

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  2. wil - Jan 13, 2014 at 4:48 PM

    I voted on the website and I voted for jackson to stay but you sound really whiny people have their opinions and more people voted for him to stay then go. He’s not even the best receiver in the nfl. generalizing the whole fan base makes you sound like cowgirls fans that won’t get over the snowball incident.

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    • Andrew Keen - Jan 13, 2014 at 5:13 PM

      Well I don’t like your opinion about his opinion about their opinions! So there!

      Seriously, your comment is dripping with hypocrisy.

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  3. Abhi - Jan 13, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    Reading the comments on any Philly.com article should give you a pretty good idea of why Riley Cooper’s percentage is so much higher than DeSean Jackson’s.

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    • crespo - Jan 14, 2014 at 11:01 AM

      Reading the comments on any Philly.com article will make you lose faith in humanity.

      unlike the brilliance found here………..tttttttthhhhhhhhhhppppppppphhhhttttttppppppptttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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  4. Drew P - Jan 13, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    Wait, when did Cooper use a racial slur? I haven’t seen that in any recent news postings.

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  5. death from above - Jan 13, 2014 at 5:01 PM

    Kulp, Kulp, Kulp

    DeSean has already admitted to short-arming a season because of a contract bitch. Now it appears he has another one. Maybe this is why people aren’t all in with him.
    If he’s so elite, why couldnt he get seperation against the Saints? Additionaly he basically disappeared in the last three games?
    He and Maclin remind me of the “marks” brothers in Miami…fun to watch but went nowhere

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    • willh888 - Jan 13, 2014 at 5:06 PM

      except for techmo bowl where they were awesome

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    • Andrew Kulp - Jan 13, 2014 at 5:32 PM

      Just because DeSean said he feels he’s deserving of a new contract in response to a direct question doesn’t mean he’s going to be a problem. In fact, he said it wouldn’t be a distraction.

      What would you say if somebody asked you whether you deserve a raise or more perks?

      And while it’s fair to criticize Jackson for 2011, even though the organization did wrong by him, that’s in the past. The question is should he stay or go this offseason, when he’s coming off of a career year. Even if you don’t like him, it’s kind of insane to say “go” based on the extremely unlikely premise that he would tank a season when he’s still due $10 million in 2015 and ’16, salaries that aren’t guaranteed.

      Also, nobody said Jackson was elite, but he’s certainly the best receiver on the roster. Maybe part of the reason he couldn’t get open is because defenses were able to single-cover Cooper on every play. One of the games Jackson disappeared in, the Eagles ran for 300 yards and the game was over before halftime.

      They’re all pretty flimsy reasons to rationalize arguing the Eagles should get rid of a guy who was voted second alternate to the Pro Bowl this season.

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      • death from above - Jan 13, 2014 at 7:15 PM

        Kulp, Kulp, Kulp….
        The dude was in man coverage for three and a half Quarters
        If you are a premiere recievver in the NFL, one might think you could get away from a DB once in a while…

      • illwillthemick - Jan 13, 2014 at 9:35 PM

        death from above… he was open foles didnt find him… and he was vs a good CB… certinly didnt lose because of desean…. fake fans gotta step it up real eagles fan whoop yall ass

      • nyphilsphan - Jan 14, 2014 at 2:56 AM

        Oh no, DFA has returned to bring the voice of the part of the fan base that doesn’t usually come around here…

        Anyway…new coach, young team, new era. Holding onto resentments from the bitter end of the Reid/Banner years is hanging onto the disappointments of the 2000s like a warm blanket of negativity.

        Soon you’ll run out of anyone who was ever coached by Andy or signed by Joe. What then? You might have to move to Detroit or Washington to keep this up….

        Welcome back. I’ve missed this.

      • death from above - Jan 14, 2014 at 3:12 PM

        @philsfan

        Thanks for the sentiment…

    • illwillthemick - Jan 13, 2014 at 6:08 PM

      wow, so he admitted to short arming a couple passes.. lol… he told the truth most just lie, and now that you whole entire basis for wanting to gte rid of him? thats doesnt make sense, even in that year where he admiting to short arming passes he led the freaking team in rec!!!!! lol…. yeah… and then the year AFTER he was on pace for having a career year but broke his ribs… and then after that he comes out and has his career year mere yards away from the all time eagles records, at that, and here you are complaing about him.. lmfao.. FAKE…. FANS!!!!!!! Sad and disgusting… pathetic… remind me of some damn dallas fans… STEP YA GAME UP!!!!

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      • death from above - Jan 13, 2014 at 7:04 PM

        He not only shortarmed a couple of passes,he shortarmed a season.

        Definitely something to be proud of.

        Have a wonderful evening.

    • RCoop - Jan 13, 2014 at 8:02 PM

      That n1663r has to go…

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    • Jason R. - Jan 14, 2014 at 12:08 PM

      He did get separation against the saints, got behind the D, Foles under threw him and the saints CB tackled him for P.I. setting up the Eagles at the 1 yard line.

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      • death from above - Jan 16, 2014 at 9:14 PM

        In which quarter?

  6. Andrew Keen - Jan 13, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    To be fair, philly.com is terrible and the people who comment on it are even worse. I only ever go there for Jimmy Kempski’s Red Zone blog. I am in no way surprised that 40% of the people on philly.com prefer Cooper to Jackson. That site is a bag of dicks.

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    • ackid47 - Jan 13, 2014 at 6:07 PM

      i don’t want jackson, and couldn’t care less about cooper either. i just want a winning team. if they stay good for them, if they go. See ya. MeSean is a bish. you don’t have to double jackson. he goes long every play. all a Cb has to do is run with him then pass him off to a safety. 1 trick pony show. nothing more.

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      • illwillthemick - Jan 13, 2014 at 6:10 PM

        how could you not want jackson? you gotta be closet racist. gotta be, he is the best WR the eagles have ever had… lol… has had the biggest plays in eagles history.. like wow… i guess this fan base just doesnt deserve to win a ring… sad…

      • nyphilsphan - Jan 14, 2014 at 3:02 AM

        It really feels that way a lot of the time.

        I just don’t understand how you could have watched this season and then 1 week later bring up Jackson’s last contract year and want Him out of town. Philly.com really knows how to rile up their audience of morons. I can hardly bring myself to read the obvious , zero content articles written for the primates that comment there.

  7. mattand - Jan 13, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    Gee, philly.com readers resent DeSean Jackson.

    Granted, I’m sure part of it is his irritating personality. But there’s maybe there’s something else.

    What’s the big difference between Riley Cooper and DeSean Jackson that would get under philly.com readers’ skin?

    Whatever could it be? Hmmmm…

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    • death from above - Jan 13, 2014 at 5:27 PM

      Nice try…

      Real fans are over the particular card you tried to play

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      • will - Jan 13, 2014 at 5:57 PM

        really? there’s people who’ve commented here in the last week that have referred to him as a criminal. despite, you know, him never having an actual legal troubles.

      • illwillthemick - Jan 13, 2014 at 6:11 PM

        real fans dont hate one of their best players… not only of right now but of all time.. lol… fake ass fans…..

      • mattand - Jan 13, 2014 at 6:45 PM

        Well, I was referring to philly.com readers specifically, not Eagles fans in general. So you may want to brush up on that reading comprehension there, Sparky.

        As far as Eagles fans: I spent a lot of time of watching games in the 700 level as a kid. You want to get into the behavior of real fans, that’s up to you.

      • death from above - Jan 13, 2014 at 6:59 PM

        @mattand…you don’t get it…I am sick and tired of the race card

      • NYPhilsPhan - Jan 14, 2014 at 8:48 AM

        @dfa

        The world couldn’t possibly care less about the things that you’re “over”. It must be nice to have transcended race to the point where you feel comfortable declaring the world beyond the necessity of bringing up race as a topic of discussion. I’m actually over civil rights, women’s right to vote, the right to own property and the Magna Carta at this point. I’ll come join you back in the stone age once I invent a time machine built out of magical race cards that are a free pass to anywhere- even the past!

        I forgot about the fantasy world you live in, though. The one where your thoughts and the words that are formed by them are actually a representation of “real” fans. You and people who think like you are real somethings… but I’ll leave it at that.

      • mattand - Jan 14, 2014 at 10:18 AM

        @death from above:

        Oh, I absolutely get it. I’ve got nearly 50 years of hearing family and friends insist “I’m not racsit, BUT…”

        You’d do well to read NYPhilsfan comment.

        You may be sick of the race card, but the fact is that race is still a problem; in sports, Philly, the US. If Riley Cooper or Nick Foles had the same cocky attitude as DeSean Jackson, they’d be hailed by the average philly.com commenter as “brash” and “confident”.

        It’s a problem. Whether you acknowledge it, or pretend that race problems don’t exist since you don’t use racial slurs, is entirely up to you.

  8. ackid47 - Jan 13, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    Look, Jackson has had 1 good year out of 5, he is the “DIVA” of the team. yea he produced this year when he wanted to. Dude disappears aplenty during games. Yes this team would be much better without him. Chip wants team players. A team first attitude. That isn’t jacksons style. Its how he obtained the nickname “MeSean”.

    After awhile fans get tired of the same ol song and dance. Jackson is a 1 trick pony my friend. straight up the sideline. Thats it nothing more. We need a big guy that isn’t afraid to take a hit or catch the ball over the middle.

    I bet the best we could get for jackson is a #2, Warning to any team wanting him. he will not take a hit, he can’t beat all the cbs, he will disappear game after game. If he catches 3-4 passes in a game he will tweet how great he is and let his stats speak for him. And catching 83 passes in a season he will want to re-do his contract 1 year after getting big bucks.

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    • illwillthemick - Jan 13, 2014 at 6:15 PM

      1 good year???/ he has led the eagles in rec every year since he has been here, and last year was leading the team before he broke his ribs, and he was also on pace for a career year… so stop being a fake fan

      and you dont know how good of a teamate desean is…

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      • death from above - Jan 13, 2014 at 7:34 PM

        But you know what a great teamate he is…

        I bow in humble subservience to you…

      • illwillthemick - Jan 13, 2014 at 9:37 PM

        you would know too if you oayed attention… when desean has honered at the espys for his PR play whod he bring with him? jason avant. who threw the block, LETS GO!!! WHERES THE REAL EAGLES FANS!!!!

  9. Chad - Jan 13, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    Who let’s you have a column about sports? This is the worst babble I have ever read. Clearly a desean jackson fan, and not a good reporter. Jackson is an over payed slot reciever, who benifited from a team with no receiving core. He is not classy and wants to be a gangster and is not worth the problems generally associated with this kind of player. 1300 yards is mediorce, and not worth 5mil/per. He is lucky to be getting payed just like the author of this terrible article.

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    • willh888 - Jan 13, 2014 at 9:14 PM

      Worst babble you have ever read is likely a proof read

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    • RonaldReaganEatsDIcks - Jan 16, 2014 at 3:04 AM

      You are either a moron, a republican, or a racis-…

      Wait. I always forget those are all the same thing.

      Reply
  10. BenE. - Jan 13, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    The white guilt is strong in this article

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    • Andrew Kulp - Jan 13, 2014 at 11:41 PM

      You’re right, 50 percent of the fan base thinks one of the most prolific wide receivers in the NFL since 2008 needs to go, I’m clearly the person with the problem.

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      • BenE. - Jan 14, 2014 at 12:00 AM

        I’m surprised at the lackluster support for Jackson, too. I’m just saying, the racial slur happened forever ago, and was dealt with. To use it as a slight against Cooper at this point is desperate.

        We shouldn’t be surprised that fans like Cooper. He had a very good year for a fifth-round pick who was slated to be the #3 WR (and therefore rarely used in Chip Kelly’s system) before Maclin got injured. He stepped into the role nicely and caught many clutch passes this season. The 44 yard reception against Detroit in the snow completely changed the complexion of that game and opened the door WIDE open for the Eagles to take over. Also, like 75% of his catches were for first downs. Not bad for a #2/3 WR. He’s the big, physical, hard-to-tackle WR the Eagles haven’t had since Terrell Owens. He’s the first WR we’ve had who is a threat over the middle in even longer. At least, those are my reasons for keeping Cooper.

        As for the Desean hate, I disagree with most of it. Chalk it up to Philly.com.

      • Andrew Kulp - Jan 14, 2014 at 12:12 AM

        I just find it interesting that a replacement-level talent who was involved in an ugly off-field incident not six months ago has a 35-percent higher approval rating than the two-time Pro Bowler who’s never had an incident away from the game.

      • BenE. - Jan 14, 2014 at 12:18 AM

        The underdog talents are usually the most popular in this city. Far more Eagles fans identify with a guy like that than a guy who can’t write English and embraces baller culture.

      • Andrew Kulp - Jan 14, 2014 at 12:31 AM

        Which would be fine if the question is “Which players are your favorite in the whole wide world?” The question was “Which players should stay and which ones need to go?” I’ve read enough of the comments to know this isn’t merely about popularity, a segment of this fan base legitimately believes the Eagles would be better off with Cooper than Jackson. Cooper isn’t nearly as talented and has caused more problems for the team off the field, so forgive me for pointing out just how absurd all of this is.

      • NYPhilsPhan - Jan 14, 2014 at 8:52 AM

        It’s really mind blowing how petty an irrational the vast majority of the fan base can be when they zero in on player they don’t like.

        This reminds me of the opposite of the Vick vs. Foles debate. All the evidence suggests one thing, but feelings are more important.

      • mattand - Jan 14, 2014 at 10:21 AM

        “Which would be fine if the question is “Which players are your favorite in the whole wide world?” The question was “Which players should stay and which ones need to go?” I’ve read enough of the comments to know this isn’t merely about popularity, a segment of this fan base legitimately believes the Eagles would be better off with Cooper than Jackson. Cooper isn’t nearly as talented and has caused more problems for the team off the field, so forgive me for pointing out just how absurd all of this is.

        Spot on.

    • nyphilsphan - Jan 14, 2014 at 8:21 AM

      Ben I usually like things you have to say around here but you should just keep quiet in these conversations. You don’t come off well at all…

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    • nyphilsphan - Jan 14, 2014 at 8:27 AM

      I’m not seeing a strong racial component here either, but “white guilt” is a very flippant thing to say. Whenever anyone brings up the slightest inference that race may have something to do with the reasons for something, there’s always someone who chalks it up to white guilt in an attempt to minimize racism, which is still a very real problem. If no one is allowed to talk about it because it’s just the weak willed behavior of people who feel guilty or victimized (one or the other, right?), that assumes it’s just a bunch of hysterical people creating something that’s no longer there.

      Trust me . It’s there.

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      • nyphilsphan - Jan 14, 2014 at 8:34 AM

        There’s a lack of understanding (“can’t write english”) and a rush to judgment (“embraces baller culture”) in your comment alone.

        But I guess it’s just white guilt that causes me to see your dismissive and belittling comments towards DeSean as being more than a little racist. But thats most of the problem: most people don’t even know they’re racist. There’s a great TED Talk about this. Check it out

      • BenE. - Jan 14, 2014 at 10:16 AM

        One look at Desean’s Twitter and Instagram will confirm he can’t write and embraces baller culture. I’m not being racist (which you’re implying); I’m calling it for what it is. Kulp is right when he says fans will latch onto a player they don’t like, and will validate their opinions by scrutinizing everything that player says or does. Desean is an easy target because of his previous contract holdout and the fact that most Eagles fans don’t identify with Desean’s baller image. On the other hand, fans always latch onto a hidden talent like Cooper who has to work his up from the bottom. We can all agree Cooper’s concert incident was ugly, but I’m not going to hold that against him after it was handled swiftly and fairly.

      • BenE. - Jan 14, 2014 at 10:26 AM

        ^ Actually, I think you said that, not Kulp

      • nyphilsphan - Jan 14, 2014 at 10:31 AM

        You’re harping on a single phrase of this article about Riley Cooper and magnifying it to be the entire point….

        And then heading down to the comments section to let him know that you see his barley hidden attempt to make this about race? So who’s seeing something that isn’t there here?

        Jackson thrived in the new system, yet the way he writes on his twitter is an issue worth brining up? Him “embracing” a culture bothers you? He’s not a Nazi or a Scientologist or a Stan Worshipper. He’s in his 20s and he identifies with the music he listens to and personifies it. Maybe it’s a tad immature, but so are most athletes. Why hold it against him. He wanted a better contract years ago? Do you want a list of the pro athletes that have avoided being injured in a contract year?

        There isn’t room on this page.

      • BenE. - Jan 14, 2014 at 12:12 PM

        I’m not advocating getting rid of Desean, nor do I have a problem with his wannabe thug lyfe. My point is it shouldn’t be surprising that Philly fans are gravitating toward a physical, blue collar player like Cooper over someone like that.

      • nyphilsphan - Jan 14, 2014 at 1:00 PM

        Your comments should have led with that then. It is easy to separate yourself from “those people on Philly.com” if you don’t start out by stepping in to call a writer out for having some kind of racial agenda buried in his article.

        The dialogue in here is usually great and free from this crap. We don’t need it. Kulp’s point was HOW CAN YOU WANT DESEAN TO LEAVE AND COOPER TO STAY- DO YOU WATCH FOOTBALL OR CARE ABOUT THIS TEAM? And your point still seems to be- “Stop brining race into this (???). But they have a good argument- have you seen his TWITTER? His baller status offends me!”

        Maybe think harder before you comment on this stuff.

      • HahaCapitalism - Jan 16, 2014 at 3:07 AM

        Dude, you make way too much sense for these comment threads full of mouth breathing South Philly conservative racists.

    • Ridiculous - Jan 16, 2014 at 3:09 AM

      How do you not even realize what a racist asshole you sound like?

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  11. nahroots - Jan 14, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    I can’t wait till this team fields Big receivers again. Djax is great in that he can stretch the field and helps move the ball between the 20′s. But he is useless and I mean USELESS in the RZ. I will never understand why the Eagles picked Maclin a year after they drafted Jackson. Another guy who has proven to be a non-factor in the RZ. Gimme the big body who isn’t scared to go up and contest for the ball. So yeah, Cooper has to stay. If Maclin doesn’t decide to sign here I won’t be heartbroken.

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    • Andrew Kulp - Jan 14, 2014 at 10:46 AM

      DeSean Jackson’s red zone stats in 2013: 6 REC, 55 YDS, 3 TD
      Riley Cooper’s red zone stats in ’13: 7 REC, 58 YDS, 4 TD
      Jeremy Maclin’s red zone stats in 2010: 11 REC, 104 YDS, 7 TD

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      • nahroots - Jan 14, 2014 at 10:59 AM

        You’re satisfied with an average of 10 TDs within the RZ between your #1 and #2 WRs? You’ve become complacent with mediocrity. Cooper produced more in the RZ than DJx this year and he’s typically the friggin WR3/4. I’m not saying get rid of Djax- he needs to stay. But a big receiver (whether it’s cooper or somebody to replace him) is a must. I don’t see how Maclin fits, but I’m open to a one-year deal.

      • Andrew Kulp - Jan 14, 2014 at 11:12 AM

        You’re putting words in my mouth. I just posted those numbers to refute the points that 1. DeSean is “useless” in the red zone and, 2. Cooper is any better just because he’s bigger (he wasn’t the WR3/4, he was the #2 and his production was essentially identical), and 3. Maclin isn’t a viable red zone target just because he’s not 6’3″ or taller–basically everything that you said up top.

        I absolutely think they should have a big WR on the roster, but I also know a healthy Maclin plays larger than his size indicates (he lost a lot of weight due to an illness before the ’11 season, and the offense was just bad in ’12), and that since Cooper’s production was equaled by a 5’10″ WR, probably a 6’3″ guy taken sometime in Rds 1-3 of the draft would do better.

      • willh888 - Jan 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM

        It could also be the guy calling the plays or throwing the ball. I agree Jackson is less effective in such a tight area than a Calvin Johnson or AJ Green…but with a RB like Shady and two versitle blocking/catching TE’s, you’re not going to need to rely on 165 lbs receiver. Did they have problems punching it in this year in the red zone? I want a big receiver too but that’s not their weakness right now. Id love for them to create a nightmare with matchups but maybe that’s a bit greedy right now. If Benjamin falls in your lap I can see that being a really tough call depending who’s available on D

      • nyphilsphan - Jan 14, 2014 at 1:05 PM

        Also remember DeSean was stopped a yard or two short of the goal line in the RZ at least 2-3 times this past season. Critics will say it’s because he’s small , but with our running game those are as good as TDs.

      • willh888 - Jan 14, 2014 at 4:34 PM

        if it matters to anyone, Desean needs only 2800 receiving yards to be the Eagles all time leader.

    • will - Jan 14, 2014 at 3:42 PM

      a lot of you must have forgotten the likes of james thrash, todd pinkston, freddie mitchell, reggie brown, kevin curtis, etc.

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      • death from above - Jan 14, 2014 at 4:29 PM

        Well put…

        Who could ever forget the numerous contributions of Na Brown or Deitrick Wells?

      • NYPhilsPhan - Jan 14, 2014 at 7:02 PM

        I won’t have people failing to mention Torrance Small and Charles Johnson in these lists. How soon we forget.

      • death from above - Jan 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM

        @phillsphan

        Nice job by you

        as well as Kevin Curtis with his marvelous clutch performances…

  12. Jason R. - Jan 14, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    In San Diego we’re knee deep in the “Philip Rivers sucks” debate.

    Football fans are the worst

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    • willh888 - Jan 14, 2014 at 12:24 PM

      He might not ‘suck’ but i truly hate his face.

      Reply

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