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Flyers nearly sent Mike Richards to Columbus too in Jeff Carter trade

Dec 19, 2013, 3:32 PM EDT


June 23, 2011—the day that changed the course of history for the Philadelphia Flyers, and for the entire NHL really. Little more than a year after coming within two wins of hoisting the Stanley Cup, general manager Paul Holgrem blew up the team’s core, trading Jeff Carter to Columbus and captain Mike Richards to Los Angeles.

You know the rest of the story. Carter found his way to LA not long after, where he and Richards were able to get their names engraved on the Cup as members of the Kings franchise.

June 23, 2011 could’ve turned out very different however. Aaron Portzline of the Columbus Dispatch recalls a story where Holmgren actually offered up both Carter and Richards to the Blue Jackets as a package.

Holmgren called Howson the day before the draft in the morning to tell him he was ready to make the move, but not before he dropped a bombshell on Howson’s lap, one that staggered him and forced him to sit down:

“You want ‘em both?” Holmgren asked Howson, meaning Carter and Richards.

The Flyers would likely have demanded center Ryan Johnansen – drafted one year earlier – as part of the package, along with the No. 1 pick in the following year’s draft. That means defenseman Ryan Murray would not be a Blue Jacket. He could be wearing orange.

Portzline wonders whether Richards coming along would’ve assuaged Carter, who never showed any interest in playing in Columbus, Ohio (and who could blame him?). The writer also questions whether or not the uber-talented Rick Nash would’ve later been dealt to the New York Rangers.

And naturally, it’s debatable whether the Kings would’ve claimed the Cup without Richards and/or Carter in the first place. We’re still not quite sure how those deals will pan out for the Flyers over the long haul, but it was rather irksome watching the orange-and-black’s once-bright stars finish the job they started in Philadelphia with another franchise.

Who’s to say if the revised package from Columbus for both of them would’ve been a better deal or not, and it’s moot anyway because that’s not the deal that was struck. However, trading Richards and Carter might not be viewed quite as unfavorably today by a segment of fans and analysts had the pair just meandered through the past couple seasons on a mid-tier Blue Jackets club.

>> “You want ‘em both?” [Columbus Dispatch]

  1. Kulp Stinks - Dec 19, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    How many years have to pass before you get over this trade, Kulp?

    Also, I think a lot of people can blame that scumbag Carter for sandbagging in Columbus when the fans were paying him millions to score goals.

    • Andrew Kulp - Dec 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM

      lol, I never had a problem with the trades at all, actually.

    • Marvin Monroe - Dec 19, 2013 at 5:21 PM

      “How many years have to pass before you get over this trade?”

      1 second after the Flyers win their next Cup.
      Hopefully I am alive for it.

  2. franko - Dec 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    They’re gone……who cares….

    We have much bigger problems to deal with now. ( our GM )

    • Ryan - Dec 23, 2013 at 1:57 AM

      ….Hence this article…..

  3. Mud Shark Patrol - Dec 19, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    I can’t blame Carter. He probably couldn’t get laid in Columbus. The only way you can get any tail in that town is if you’re some black dude on the OSU football team and some white girl wants to bang you to get back at her father for using the N word too much. Carter never had a chance. South Jersey skanks give it up to hockey players way easier.

    • Yea? - Dec 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM

      Being from south jersey, I concur with this statement haha . I hear Mike Richards and Jeff Carter still hold the record for most STDs caught in one night while out in Sea Isle City.

    • Mike - Dec 20, 2013 at 8:06 PM

      Sounds like someone’s jealous.

      You guys wish you got as much tail as these two lol

  4. trey - Dec 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Possibly but having bot h carter and rich could have made the blue jackets contenders so murray may have been someone elses pick just saying

  5. Stave - Dec 19, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    Justin Williams and Simon Gagne were on that roster too. Grrrrrr……

  6. Rogie - Dec 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Especially painful when the Kings hoist the Cup a 2nd time on three years next spring. GOKINGSGO!!

  7. Toby - Dec 20, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Their both a couple of scumbags, who cares….

    • willh888 - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

      apparently not your 6th grade teacher

    • Cdt - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:03 PM

      Scumbags huh? they have been nothing but professionals in LA. Oh and by the way they got their names on THE CUP!!!!!

    • tmbtrumpet - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM

      Both scumbags have raised the Cup this century, how about the Broadstreet Pansies?
      Suck a cheesesteak bitterman….

      GO KINGS GO!!!

  8. Philly - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    They are scumbags. Philly sucks. Love that!!!

    Let’s Go Pens!

  9. Rorschach - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    I really enjoyed this article. By turning down Philly for both, it makes Howson really look like he deserved to be fired.

    I don’t know how many games they would have won together but having both those guys with Nash on the left side on one line would have kept butts in seats for a long time. And it would have drawn a few free agents too…plus RJ Umberger is part of that group as well. AND with the extremely reasonable cap hits on both, Lumbus would have had a lot of room for other good players.

    I know all of this because as a Kings fan, we reap the rewards daily. Lombardi tried to trade for both Nash and Carter from Lumbus but “settled” for Carter since Howson was selling so low on him. 40+ clutch goal scorer who backchecks and sets a wonderful fitness example for our young players at 5 mil a year…sick.

  10. tr - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    I think it is hysterical when a a couple out of the 30 Kings fans come on this board to post…

    • Cartsy love poontang - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:33 PM

      the Kings have 30 fans? thought it would be less…

      • GKG - Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 PM

        I would be more shocked if you could count to 30.

    • GKG - Dec 20, 2013 at 11:36 PM

      You poor thing you’re sad…have a cookie!

  11. Richards snorts coke - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Richie and Carter are both good players – not great. The Kings will be eating it when both of them are still there in 2020. Those contracts will hurt them in the long run…

  12. rkrohn72 - Jan 22, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Get over your inbred east coast love affair. There are places outside of your shite hole of a city. Columbus is a great place, you’ve never been here, so shut up until you get enough cash from your minimum wage job to travel somewhere. We got your goalie, we’ve won 7 in a row, and we’re going to own your clown of a goalie later this week. Carter is a piece of shite, glad he’s gone. Players like Nathan Horton are what we want in our city anyway, not pouty prima donnas. You can have your over priced glamour boys, we’ll just get it done in workmanlike fashion like we are. Keep taking selfies and patting yourself on the back as we pass you on our way to the playoffs. Now that we’re in the pushover eastern division and not traveling 4 time zones every other day, we’re kicking tail and taking names.


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