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Report: OF Marlon Byrd returning to Phillies

Nov 12, 2013, 11:48 AM EDT


Ruben Amaro Jr. and the Phillies are set to reunite with outfielder Marlon Byrd, according to multiple reports including Michael Barkann on 94 WIP who broke the news.

When first hearing about the signing, there are two facts that stick out in Byrd’s bio. The right-handed bat is now 36 years old and was almost out of baseball after being suspended for violating MLB’s PED policy in 2012.

He put up solid numbers in 2013 splitting time between the Mets and the Pirates, the latter of which he helped to their first postseason in decades: 291/.336/.511 with 24 home runs and 88 RBIs in 147 games.

Assuming the 2-year deal is at a bargain price, the reaction around the web seems to be “it could have been worse,” which speaks to fans’ confidence in Ruben Amaro these days. The Phils needed a right-handed outfield bat and if Byrd can replicate the numbers he put up last season, he’ll be a nice stop gap.

UPDATE: Adam Rubin of ESPN is reporting the 2-year deal to be worth $16 million which certainly seems like a lot. Byrd made $700,000 last season.

  1. docdeath20 - Nov 12, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Very safe signing that’s for sure looks better then the Delmonte Young and Lance Nix who both together couldn’t hit their weight.

    • ochospantalones - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:34 PM

      We would all take this comment more seriously if you actually knew the names of either player you are attempting to reference.

      • Pete D - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:40 PM

        To be fair, Laynce is a little tougher than Del Monte.

      • docdeath20 - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:49 PM

        You are aN A$$ I call Young that because he hits like a can of peaches it was a joke knuckle head

      • ochospantalones - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:56 PM

        How exactly does a can of peaches hit? It’s made of metal, so I guess hard? That doesn’t seem to resemble Delmon Young though. And as Pete D astutely observes, it would be Del Monte, not Delmonte. And none of this explains “Lance Nix”.

        Oh, I’ll throW soMe RAnDOm capitali$ation and sYmb0ls in for U.

      • docdeath20 - Nov 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM

        You really are a Wet Dream buddy what else can I say a real Wet Dream it was a fookin joke Douce

      • docdeath20 - Nov 12, 2013 at 4:52 PM

        First not sure what you do not understand in the word Joke. Secondly I am debating if you are A Wet Dream B a Bona fide douce bag or C a child who stole his big duster or brothers computer

      • ochospantalones - Nov 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM

        I would respond to this:

        “First not sure what you do not understand in the word Joke. Secondly I am debating if you are A Wet Dream B a Bona fide douce bag or C a child who stole his big duster or brothers computer”

        But I honestly have no idea what most of it means. I’m sure it’s all very manly and tough though.

        Also, you still haven’t explained what about calling Laynce Nix “Lance” was a joke. I’m sorry, I meant “Joke”.

      • docdeath20 - Nov 13, 2013 at 10:09 AM

        Okay I give up sorry I ever post anything I thought I spelled Nix name correctly Lance so if I misspelled the name I am old

  2. docdeath20 - Nov 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    I forgot to mention it looks like A$$ CLOWN is going back to bargain basement shopping, or BUM UR US

  3. thehobbit7 - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Remember when he was the “next Kirby Puckett?”

    • Marvin Monroe - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:17 PM

      Seeing that he is 36 made me realize how old I am. I remember him being the hot minor league prospect. And then getting traded for Endy Chavez- one of the worst players I have ever seen, with the exception of The Catch.

      • Steve - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:28 PM

        Endy Chavez, man, he was the worst. Although, Abraham Nunez could probably give him a run for his money.

  4. Mike - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    Journeymen type players always have career years at 35 without PEDs. I can’t foresee any dip in performance as he moves forward.

  5. will - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    $8 mil a year for a 36 year old outfielder who isn’t very good. great job rubes!

  6. hitnrun - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    “Assuming the 2-year deal is at a bargain price, the reaction around the web seems to be “it could have been worse,”

    “UPDATE: Adam Rubin of ESPN is reporting the 2-year deal to be worth $16 million”

    It could have been worse, and it was.

  7. Mark432 - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    You just knew this was coming. As soon as I saw Byrd was on the market and everyone saying he’s the one guy the Phils should stay away from. I knew that was Ruben’s cue!

  8. yishmeister - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Did Rube go to the Flyers School of Sports Management in the last month or something?!?!

    • Cuban - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:33 PM


  9. Breaking News - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    RAJ has multi-year offers out to Micky Morandini and Jim Eisenreich too. We’re getting the band back together.

    • will - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:35 PM

      jose mesa has a spring training invite.

      • toobis - Nov 13, 2013 at 1:16 PM

        Is Ugueth Urbina out of jail?

  10. willh888 - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    this signing is about as fun as jerking off with a cheese grater

    • docdeath20 - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:53 PM


  11. Bastardo's Giant Quads - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    He was actually pretty good last year. 8 a year is a little much, but I don’t hate it if he can keep it up for another year or so.

    • ochospantalones - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:39 PM

      Why would anyone believe he will “keep it up for another year or so?” He’s a 36-year old former PEDs user coming off of the best season of his entire career.

      • Dan - Nov 12, 2013 at 11:19 PM

        Does anyone ever pay attention to the PED policy at all? Sure, it has caught some cheaters, like Braun, but it got Galvis for a footcream… I mean, in Byrd’s case, he says he got a surgery and this product was used to help fix a problem that occurred post surgery. It is a product that blocks the estrogen effects in the body. This product that he was using is in no way a PED, but can be used in tandum with PEDs. That is why the first time offense is a 50 game suspension and not a ban from the game because they are usually not actually using PEDs at all.

        I just think it is funny that players get suspended after career years for a drug use and always say “well, that explains it” when the suspended player was using a banned substance that has no performance enhancing effects, for an unrelated reason.

        And even at 8 mil a year, Byrd isn’t that bad of a signing. He is cheaper than some of the other options out there, and if the Phillies can snatch another outfielder, he would be a low skill risk, since Ben Revere is in the organization and still hasn’t reached full potential.

  12. BenE. - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    I won’t dance around it. It’s a fucking awful signing and a glorious waste of time and money for the Phillies. Take your lumps and be a losing team for a couple years. Start collecting talent and develop it. Give the team a clear direction. This is another band-aid signing and the Phillies will continue to bob in mediocre waters with expensive, aging players.

    • Steve - Nov 12, 2013 at 3:14 PM

      I absolutely agree. The money is one issue, however, as you pointed out, this is just a giant waste of time, and that is what I find to be most troubling.

  13. willh888 - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    2012: Troy Tulowizski, 27 year old made 8.2 million dollars for the season.

    Now stand back, do some Amaro Arithmetic and admire the pants pooping party going on with the Phillies

    • docdeath20 - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:01 PM

      I heard Inky and Mickey M are coming back along with Roger Mason and David West he tried to sign Sandberg and realized he was the manager.

      • willh888 - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:04 PM

        And all the d-heads can keep calling him Ryan

  14. Jay D - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    16 million……….
    good lord

  15. Andrew W - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Is it too early in the season to start banging the Fire RAJ drums? If it is someone let me know. I’ll bust this bad boy back out in May.

    • Chris - Nov 12, 2013 at 7:46 PM

      you say that as if some of us haven’t been banging those drums for at least a couple years now…

  16. Andy Schreiber - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Did anyone else in MLB offer Byrd even HALF that much???

    He goes from making less than a million dollars/season to making $8 million dollars/season . . .for TWO years???

    Man, I just don’t get it.

    • docdeath20 - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM

      i will give you a hint [1] Word reminds you of AN A$$ HOLE [AMARO] BINGO he is crazy and oblivious like Holmgren on how to be a productive shrewd, smart GM. We are cursed. The best think for any team is to bring in an outsider to rebuild kinda like they did with Gillick. No home grown blood line former players, doesn’t work in our town. wish i knew why!!

      • Andy Schreiber - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:43 PM

        He’s a decent outfielder, nothing more. There is a reason he has bounced around from team to team to team. Darin Ruf is going to finish the 2014 season with better numbers than Byrd, IMO. (Although this signing makes me think that a trade for an OF is looming.)

    • Hiccup - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:19 PM

      Looks like JMJ and Brown are about to be traded; hope fully for a good deal but knowing Rubes I bet Chad Qualls and Dontrelle Willis figures into the deal somehow .

      • Dan - Nov 12, 2013 at 11:22 PM

        JMJ does not have any trade value, unless players can be traded for tastykakes. Brown, on the other hand, would be interesting because he had great numbers, although he got hurt at the end of the season, and a bulk of the HRs came when he played 2 weeks of baseball like he was playing against 8 year olds.

  17. Mick - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Amaro makes loving this team quite the challenge. Talk about cashing in on a flukey performance last year.

  18. Mick - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    What’s the take on the Phillies picking up Pierzynski if a deal with Ruiz can’t get done?

  19. Moneyball - Nov 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Jonah Hill: “This is Marlon Byrd. He’s the most undervalued outfielder in baseball. This guy should be worth millions. We can get him for $237,000.”

    RAJ: “$16 million seems fair”

  20. JP - Nov 12, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    I don’t like this signing even a little bit. I probably would have complained at $8mil for 2 yrs as well. This is starter kind of money. With Brown, Revere and Ruf out there already, I don’t see how he does not end up being a platoon player in some fashion. Too much to platoon. I will deal with this better when Mayberry is shipped out of town….

    • Dan - Nov 12, 2013 at 11:33 PM

      hmmm everyone complained that Ruben doesn’t look at the numbers… Patt Burrell after the 2008 season was offered something like 2 yrs/ 17 mil and no one batted an eye. He had a WAR of 2.3

      Jason Werth was offered 3 yrs/ 48 mil after 2010. He was better, WAR was at 4.6 that year, and 4.5 the year before. $16 million, not so irrational.

      Marlon Byrd got 2 yrs/ 16 mil. The cheapest of the 3 players. He had a WAR of 4.1 last year. Not quite Werth.

      Now, we can debate $8 mil a year as being a good price or not. At this point, that is a done deal. Byrd is a good kind of player to bring into the organization. He may be old, but he is at least a good safety net, if not valuable player out in the field.

      And I will trade for JMJ for market value. About two dozen tastykake coffee cakes.

      • Jason R. - Nov 13, 2013 at 1:17 AM

        They weren’t 36 coming off of an outlier season

  21. Jason R. - Nov 13, 2013 at 1:22 AM

    Byrd’s Agent: And we’ll start the bidding at $800,000…


  22. brandonphilly - Nov 13, 2013 at 5:21 AM

    I love Byrd. That’s my boy! You remember when he initially came to the team and Abreu was out there jogging to pop-ups and just watching them fall? Byrd was hustling his @ss down the line if he hit a blooper back to the mound. Always loved his hustle and genuinely missed it when he left. 16 mil is about twice as much as he’s probably worth, but I love him and am happy he’s back.

    Let’s get those bird calls going again from the outfield stands!


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