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These Stats Indicate the 2013 Phillies Are Pretty Much Done

Jun 24, 2013, 1:58 PM EDT

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Charlie Manuel admitted after Sunday’s 8-0 loss to the Mets that even he’s now “wondering” whether or not his team can turn things around and make the playoffs.

Well, if history is to be believed, there isn’t much to wonder about — other than who Ruben Amaro might be able to unload at the deadline.

CSNPhilly.com’s Corey Seidman dug up these tidbits that show that the Phillies, on June 24, are already, pretty much, basically, for the most part, almost totally…

…done:

The Phillies have been outscored by 58 runs this season. Only the Marlins and Astros — who opened the season with a combined payroll of close to $100 million less than the Phils –- have worse run differentials.

Run differential tends to be a better indicator of a team’s talent than even its record. And over the last 108 seasons, only two teams that were outscored as badly as the Phillies to this point in the season won 83 or more games — the 1996 Red Sox and 1988 Padres. Only seven in the history of baseball finished with a winning record. Not a single one made the playoffs.

The Phillies are 7 1/2 games out of the division and 8 1/2 games out of the Wild Card with 86 games remaining.

The trade deadline is July 31.

We’re in watch, wait and hope mode, but here are few other depressing facts and figures if you feel like wallowing a little more.

>> To make playoffs, Phillies would need to make history [CSN]
>> Get ready for some depressing Phillies stats … [Beerleaguer]

  1. BenE. - Jun 24, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    I’m certainly in “watch, wait, and hope mode” that Ruben blows it up. It’s been incredible watching this group grow and play and win together, but this is not a winning collective anymore. You can’t keep a similar lineup for 7+ years and expect to be successful. Baseball doesn’t work like that. The window to win with even the best lineups is only a few seasons, and the Phillies have been the archetype of regression after peaking (’08).

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  2. paul - Jun 24, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    this is the thing that tells you they are done? not, you know, watching them play?

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  3. mykhuis - Jun 24, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    It’s truly been a great run, and overall we’ve been blessed with some great baseball over the last few years. But today’s not yesterday, and all things have an ending. I just hope they get some decent prospects out of all this.

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  4. willh888 - Jun 24, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Rube is good at unloading prospects at the very least. I just don’t want him to be in the seat when attempting to get max-prospects for guys like Lee or Paps. Look at the dew dew crew he brought in when trading Cliff the first time. I give the guy credit for at least doing something to try to improve the team with in-season pick ups, but that just makes you a reg season power house.

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  5. steve - Jun 24, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    They are so bad that they make the rest of the NL East look bad too

    Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 7m
    This stunner courtesy of the @MLBNetwork research department: #Phillies’ 31-29 record since April 19 is best in NL East.

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  6. Von9 - Jun 24, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    This is some amazing breaking news! Even without your “fancy stat” run differential this team fails the eyeball test, and is routinely outplayed by weak opposition. Other teams and fringe players are breaking out of slumps and having career performances against the Phils.

    All of this was obvious at this point last year. The front office is reacting with the swiftness of a retarded glacier on a lunch break. At least we don’t have massive long-term financial commitments to underperforming “superstars”! That’s Yankee/Dodger territory, am I right?

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  7. LMAO - Jun 24, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Love the doom & gloom of the Phillies fans right now. Takes me back about a decade and more when we were really wallowing in the stuff.

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    • Von9 - Jun 24, 2013 at 11:49 PM

      Son, let me tell about a time when Juan Samuel played second base in a stadium with artificial turf…

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